Precision Industries Vigilante Torque Converter

[John Skiba]

Any of you guys try a PI Vigilante yet with you TBSS?

http://www.converter.com/vigilante.htm

I've had them in my vette and TA and absolutely loved it. They also offer a free restall for your converter should you change your mods.

All you guys talk about is the yanks but I prefer a vigilante again over the yank. All you old timers probaly understand. ;) (99redhawk :) )

[ScarabEpic22]

Any of you guys try a PI Vigilante yet with you TBSS?

http://www.converter.com/vigilante.htm

I've had them in my vette and TA and absolutely loved it. They also offer a free restall for your converter should you change your mods.

All you guys talk about is the yanks but I prefer a vigilante again over the yank. All you old timers probaly understand. ;) (99redhawk :) )
Thats a cool thing, free restall if you change mods. Would be nice for now if you wanted like a 3200 for now, but later wanted a 3600 after you did some FI and wanted to make it fast instead of a DD.

And, since I have no idea what you are talking about between the two brands, whats the difference?

[vetruck]

I'm not an old timer so fill me in please. I will switch mine out eventually and would like to consider all the options. TIA

[Speed Inc]

We offer them and they are great converters. I would advise caution though, only install this converter if you plan on not doing any towing with your TBSS. Otherwise it will be a big help ;)

[John Skiba]

We offer them and they are great converters. I would advise caution though, only install this converter if you plan on not doing any towing with your TBSS. Otherwise it will be a big help ;)

John - Do you guys have part #'s for the TBSS yet and pricing? I don't think I saw it on your website.

Which would you guys recommend, the yanks or the PI's?

I'm not an old timer so fill me in please. I will switch mine out eventually and would like to consider all the options. TIA

I don't know anything about the current yanks. You guys may want to do a seach on LS1tech.com (or ls1.com) for history or current. Memory serves me right, I believe it had something to do with the manufacturing process of the yanks and components used compared (stock cut housings, etc). It's been a LONG time however. The threads may be still around. Only thing I can say is I've always been happy with my PI's, so I figured why not.

You may want to check both manufacturers websites. I believe PI manufacturers the housing out of billet instead of just cutting open a stocker.

Maybe someone with converter knowledge can share it with us here?

[Speed Inc]

They prefer to use a triple disc 10.5" converter for these trucks.

The info is as follows:

2800-3000 PIV240018-3 $934.42
3200-3400 PIV270018-3 $934.42
*just added to our site*

Yank will not sell to shops anymore. You can only buy direct.

[vetruck]

Whats the highest you can go and still tow with either Yank or PI or no difference there?

[Speed Inc]

Whats the highest you can go and still tow with either Yank or PI or no difference there?

Towing something like a jet ski? or like a boat/car? I wouldnt tow anything at all - trans temp will get pretty high and toasty.

[boostnss]

Well yank states they have a 3200 stall that can tow sock caps. temps wont be to bad if its a eff. converter. and you should always install a big cooler with the verter anyways just my 2 cents

[ScarabEpic22]

Towing something like a jet ski? or like a boat/car? I wouldnt tow anything at all - trans temp will get pretty high and toasty.
Yea, thats one of the reasons if I get an SS I will have to get a converter that still allows me to tow enough weight (about 4K to be safe).

[John Skiba]

If I had to tow anything, I would never consider a high stall converter (for the tranny's sake) no matter what the claims are. ;)

Of course it's the "fragile" 4L70e that'll get the blame anyways so stall and tow away! :p :rolleyes:

But then again, someone "claims" to be able to spray a 100 DRY shot on a I6 4.2L trailvoy also. :crazy: (Anyone tell this guy that a mafless system has no way of adding fuel? )

On a side note, I know a great place where you can get replacement motors and tranny's for incredible prices. ;)

[Speed Inc]

Lets put it this way, I plan on buying a TBSS.

I plan on doing headers, cam, heads, and a trans cooler ... but not a converter. I plan on using it as a tow vehicle.

We have sold converters to TBSS owners and they make a huge difference - I personally draw the line at the towing abilities though.

[Soupuh]

Could you link to a trans cooler for a TBSS? I'd much appreciate it

[Soupuh]

I did a little searching...

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=BMM%2D70266&view=1&N=4294924500+4294906626+0&appfilter=1

looks promising. Would that oil cooler be big enough for a tbss? In this price range, it seems worth it to go with the very best option...

[ScarabEpic22]

Lets put it this way, I plan on buying a TBSS.

I plan on doing headers, cam, heads, and a trans cooler ... but not a converter. I plan on using it as a tow vehicle.

We have sold converters to TBSS owners and they make a huge difference - I personally draw the line at the towing abilities though.
Very cool, gonna use it as a killer tow truck!!:yes: :drool:

Nice man, Im pretty much in the same boat you are. I gotta tow, but I like the heads, cam, headers, trans cooler. Probably gonna be looking at these if I get a frickin SS eventually.:mad:


Off topic: Since the TB isnt going to die until 2010, does that mean we will have a TB SS model until then?:undecided

[Speed Inc]

I did a little searching...

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=BMM%2D70266&view=1&N=4294924500+4294906626+0&appfilter=1

looks promising. Would that oil cooler be big enough for a tbss? In this price range, it seems worth it to go with the very best option...


We usually do the BM70264 ($54.99) ... the one you listed you would have to make lines for, the one I just listed uses barbed fittings and hose.

To be honest we have not done one yet on a TBSS, on my own I would try to maybe find something that is a little more heavy duty, maybe with a little fan on it. Just to make sure that the trans doesnt roll over dead while towing.

[bbradyc5]

That B&M cooler is the one I had installed when the converter went in also. While yes it does come with the rubber hose and barbed fittings, I still had everything hard plumbed and it looks totally factory. I think having it hard plumbed is worth the little extra money if you are going to do it IMO.

[DrkPhx]

My 04 Denali had an external trans cooler and trans temp gauge. I wonder if this could retrofit into a TB SS?