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grayfox
07-19-2006, 08:36 PM
i was wondering are you able to switch the hoses on a 05 trailblazer so you can use corn oil if they do can i have a url n prices and all the info plz i would like to save alil cash on gas so any help would be greatly appreciated

ghoster
07-19-2006, 08:42 PM
Are you talking about the E-85 crap?? No, it can't be used on a Trailblazer.:cool:

ScarabEpic22
07-19-2006, 10:23 PM
Are you talking about the E-85 crap?? No, it can't be used on a Trailblazer.:cool:
Dont even think about putting E85 in a TV, EVER!!! You will have to replace a bunch of parts after the engine dies from lack of gasoline (15% isnt enough, 90% is bad enough with 10% ethanol).

Dont do it, and there arent conversion kits.

ghoster
07-19-2006, 10:31 PM
Dont even think about putting E85 in a TV, EVER!!! You will have to replace a bunch of parts after the engine dies from lack of gasoline (15% isnt enough, 90% is bad enough with 10% ethanol).

Dont do it, and there arent conversion kits.

:D Not even sure if thats what he was talking about!:rotfl:

ScarabEpic22
07-20-2006, 12:28 AM
:D Not even sure if thats what he was talking about!:rotfl:
Even if you werent right, he was talking about corn oil aka E85 (or biodiesel for diesels). No, TVs cant be converted to run diesel either.

Rob
07-20-2006, 08:39 AM
I towed a car in one day after a custome called me to say the car wouldn't start. Mid-seventies Chevy if I recall. I got in it and pumped the gas a few times and tried to start it. Huge clouds of grey smoke poured out of the tail pipe and after two seconds it would die. I tried this a couple of times thinking to myself WTF.... Opened the hood and pulled the air cleaner. Soon as my nose got a wiff, it hit me - somebody had put diesel in it.

Excell
07-20-2006, 09:26 AM
I towed a car in one day after a custome called me to say the car wouldn't start. Mid-seventies Chevy if I recall. I got in it and pumped the gas a few times and tried to start it. Huge clouds of grey smoke poured out of the tail pipe and after two seconds it would die. I tried this a couple of times thinking to myself WTF.... Opened the hood and pulled the air cleaner. Soon as my nose got a wiff, it hit me - somebody had put diesel in it.

Haha, good story. :)

To answer the question: You would need to replace almost all of the fuel system components to run E-85 in the TrailBlazer. The fuel pump would need alcohol-resistant seals, electrical connection insulation (gasoline is not a conductor, alcohol is), and any metal to be corrosion resistant (alcohol is VERY corrosive). Fuel lines need to be nylon-lined for corrosion resistance, all seals along the way will need to be changed to alcohol-compatible materials. Fuel injectors need to be alcohol compatible for the same reasons as the fuel pump. You would need an alcohol sensor in the system to detect when you are running E-85 and then you would need calibrations in the PCM for E-85 so when the sensor detects the alcohol it can command the PCM to go into “E-85 mode.” The PCM thing may not be as bad as it sounds, I’ll bet there are already E-85 tables built into our PCM file, they are just inactive. Not 100% sure though, since I haven’t seen the file for the TB yet.

I’m sure I’m forgetting some little things, but that’s basically it. So as you can see, it’s really not worth the investment to try and make a non-E85 vehicle E-85 compatible.

Rob
07-20-2006, 11:34 AM
A few years ago Car and Driver sent a reporter to Cuba to do a story on all the pre-Castro American cars still running down there. Evidently the Cubans are pretty good at keeping old iron running. One guy was driving a '57 Chevy as an illegal taxi. He had rigged it up with a secondary intake manifold, carb and gas pedal. He would start it on the original setup on gasoline, and once the engine was hot he would switch it over to the secondary setup using kerosene which was apparently quite a bit cheaper that gasoline. People do some wild stuff.

MTPockets
07-20-2006, 05:44 PM
i was wondering are you able to switch the hoses on a 05 trailblazer so you can use corn oil..

Corn oil? :duh: C'mon guy, you gotta be kidding. You could probably burn super clean and treated corn oil in a diesel. Definately not in a SI engine!

Joel