Chevrolet confirms the TB SS is on hold

[TrailblazerSS]

:worried: Won't say why or how long. Anybody heard any details?

[Dave]

I hope not! My dealer just told me today that their first is supposed to be in around January.

[nyraider56]

:worried: Won't say why or how long. Anybody heard any details?

Where did you see this???? I can't seem to find that anywhere! :mad:

[Envoy Fan]

Where did you see this???? I can't seem to find that anywhere! :mad:

A guy over on gminsidenews.com mentioned it. Says it is a "minor" production problem, but did not say / know what the problem was.

[homertime]

I heard the same rumor, but I got more information:

They realized that only the people on this forum would buy one, and of those people that only 3 could afford them before 2010, so they're waiting for our bank accounts to build up. :laugh:

Seriously now, that does suck. Though I'm not getting one, I was really hoping to test drive one before October.

[Tommy]

I think we are looking at two totally different versions of the SS. GM pushed up the TrailVoy total redesign from 2008 to 2007 and then makes an SS model in 2006. That means the 2007 SS (if they make it) will be totally different. :confused:

[TrailblazerSS]

I called Chevrolet because my order has been in for 3 weeks and I do not have a TPW yet. They told me it was on hold but couldn't say why.

[westbayou]

Why am I not suprised by this at all? That would explain why there hasn't been a lick of info made available on it in months, why even though production is supposed to have begun, nobody seems to know anything, need I go on? Ugh, this just pisses me off. Figures I have been patiently waiting for their arrival only to find out I get to wait some more. Who knows what the holdup is? Maybe the test vehicles are grenading that "new" tranny, or they can't the the MPG above 8-9 city. It could be anything. Next thing you know GM will just cancel the vehicle entirely.

[westbayou]

From an GM inside source on another forum:

TrailBlazer SS
(B4U) production has been re-timed pending final validation of supplier parts. Start-up timing is currently undefined. Any orders currently in POMS will be returned to VOM until start-up timing is determined.

Apparently that is the official GM announcement circulating at the moment, and the most accurate info available. DOH!!!!

[the grouch]

that jeep GC SRT-8 is looking better by that day. wonder when it launches? good job GM. is it the buyers or the vendors f up? this sucks.

[jallshouse]

This is like taking away your 21st birthday after a year of so of planning and fantasizing :duh: hopefully the 'whole' story surfaces soon

[SBK]

Clearly you guys don't work in the high-volume production or automotive industries. GM has no plans to "cancel" the TBSS, that's just plain silly. As with many programs, there is a delay on initial intro due to an NVH-related issue. Which would you rather have - an official announcement which has to be retracted and back-pedaled upon, or for GM to "get it right" before rolling full steam ahead?

Kinda ironic, you must admit. If they rolled vehicles with a quality or noise problem, the same guys would be up in arms over "GM quality being crap - why couldn't they get it right?" If they hold up to make sure that things are the way they should be, they get slapped for that too. Unfortunately, sometimes the ball gets dropped by a supplier, or unforseen integration problems arise when the "real deal" parts come together for the first time. It's the unfortunate reality of a product with a zillion different part numbers, suppliers, and resulting interfaces.

Lighten up, folks. The trucks will hit the market when they are right. Personally, having one on order, I'd much rather see a slight delay and in return get a truck of higher quality. Of course, that's just my :m2: ...

[jallshouse]

Clearly you guys don't work in the high-volume production or automotive industries. GM has no plans to "cancel" the TBSS, that's just plain silly. As with many programs, there is a delay on initial intro due to an NVH-related issue. Which would you rather have - an official announcement which has to be retracted and back-pedaled upon, or for GM to "get it right" before rolling full steam ahead?

Kinda ironic, you must admit. If they rolled vehicles with a quality or noise problem, the same guys would be up in arms over "GM quality being crap - why couldn't they get it right?" If they hold up to make sure that things are the way they should be, they get slapped for that too. Unfortunately, sometimes the ball gets dropped by a supplier, or unforseen integration problems arise when the "real deal" parts come together for the first time. It's the unfortunate reality of a product with a zillion different part numbers, suppliers, and resulting interfaces.

Lighten up, folks. The trucks will hit the market when they are right. Personally, having one on order, I'd much rather see a slight delay and in return get a truck of higher quality. Of course, that's just my :m2: ...

I do work in the auto industy, so your statment in not fair!! It is nice to see that you know something on this subject that we dont, and it seems to be good news for the future SS owners! Please remember one thing....this is a discussion board and everyone has differant ideas and opinions on the news that has surfaced so far about hte delay...maybe i get the wrong idea about your post, maybe not :m2:

[TrailblazerSS]

Sure I'm disappointed. I want it to be right, but I also expect communication!
Chevy isn't saying anything. They need to say there's a delay and our best guess is...xxxxx

I've sold my daily driver. I was figuring on 3-4 weeks. A long time to drive my show car, but now how long is it going to be? Months? I need to make arrangements.

[the grouch]

Clearly you guys don't work in the high-volume production or automotive industries. GM has no plans to "cancel" the TBSS, that's just plain silly. As with many programs, there is a delay on initial intro due to an NVH-related issue. Which would you rather have - an official announcement which has to be retracted and back-pedaled upon, or for GM to "get it right" before rolling full steam ahead?

Kinda ironic, you must admit. If they rolled vehicles with a quality or noise problem, the same guys would be up in arms over "GM quality being crap - why couldn't they get it right?" If they hold up to make sure that things are the way they should be, they get slapped for that too. Unfortunately, sometimes the ball gets dropped by a supplier, or unforseen integration problems arise when the "real deal" parts come together for the first time. It's the unfortunate reality of a product with a zillion different part numbers, suppliers, and resulting interfaces.

Lighten up, folks. The trucks will hit the market when they are right. Personally, having one on order, I'd much rather see a slight delay and in return get a truck of higher quality. Of course, that's just my :m2: ...

whatever dude, i dont work in the automobile industry, but I am a buyer for a major electronics retailer, and work with vendors for product & parts. where 80% of my stuff comes from the orient. I know what goes on in procurement.

this isnt an entirely new vehicle, I understand the delay of development of say the Solstice. The SS is only a major mod of an existing truck that has been on the market for almost 4 yrs now! GET IT RIGHT GM. watch, when corp. said on sale fall 05, they really meant Dec 31st, 2005. maybe.

i want to see a next-gen hybrid I6. and please GM dont f that up. or sadly, i will go elsewhere./

[SBK]

The number of new part numbers in the TBSS and the resulting changes in the interface of those parts would probably surprise most folks, hence my comments. Yes, it's a carryover platform - but the entire powertrain, most of the chassis, stability control, and a host of other items (interior, dress items, exterior panels, etc) are new for this package, or new to this vehicle platform.

I won't comment on buying completed product for resale vs. designing, sourcing, buying, integrating, validating, high-volume assembling, and distributing a highly complex product, but lets just suffice to agree that they are of a bit different magnitude.

TrailblazerSS, sorry to hear you made plans based on the target production week your dealer provided. Unfortunately, for a new option or option package, it's not at all uncommon to see the build timing move around a bit. I'll post back if I hear any additional info relative to timing.

jallshouse, no offense intended with my post. It's just wild to me to see posts speculating as to "grenading" powertrains, insinuations as to "secrecy" and other stuff. This isn't the grassy knoll in Dallas, it's just a new (albeit very cool) variant of Trailblazer.

Believe me, I'm as anxious to get my truck as anybody else. It's a great vehicle. Just irks me a little to see discussions like this spiral off. I've been around various discussion boards, so I understand the dynamics - but sometimes the comments are simply a bit off-base.

[jallshouse]

The number of new part numbers in the TBSS and the resulting changes in the interface of those parts would probably surprise most folks, hence my comments. Yes, it's a carryover platform - but the entire powertrain, most of the chassis, stability control, and a host of other items (interior, dress items, exterior panels, etc) are new for this package, or new to this vehicle platform.

I won't comment on buying completed product for resale vs. designing, sourcing, buying, integrating, validating, high-volume assembling, and distributing a highly complex product, but lets just suffice to agree that they are of a bit different magnitude.

TrailblazerSS, sorry to hear you made plans based on the target production week your dealer provided. Unfortunately, for a new option or option package, it's not at all uncommon to see the build timing move around a bit. I'll post back if I hear any additional info relative to timing.

jallshouse, no offense intended with my post. It's just wild to me to see posts speculating as to "grenading" powertrains, insinuations as to "secrecy" and other stuff. This isn't the grassy knoll in Dallas, it's just a new (albeit very cool) variant of Trailblazer.

Believe me, I'm as anxious to get my truck as anybody else. It's a great vehicle. Just irks me a little to see discussions like this spiral off. I've been around various discussion boards, so I understand the dynamics - but sometimes the comments are simply a bit off-base.

no harm, no foul

[the grouch]

I agree that there is alot more in auto parts purchasing i dont know about, but i do source parts, and work with production factories overseas, for OEM brand. I realize there are delays.

But please tell me what in the SS is so new, futuristic, mutually exclusive to the 360, experimental, groundbreaking, not used on any other worldwide GM production machine?

what did the stitching of SS on the suede seats not look right>? this is a 4+ yr old vehicle. drop a vette engine in it and see what happens. 2 years later

this concept has been making the show circuit for what 2 yrs now???

[SBK]

But please tell me what in the SS is so new, futuristic, mutually exclusive to the 360, experimental, groundbreaking, not used on any other worldwide GM production machine?
Based on your own experience with design, development, validation and manufacture, I'm sure you understand that any new part number can be problematic and cause delays. All the way down to the simplest of items. As you well know, "futuristic, revolutionary technology" is not a base requirement for an error or a situation to change. There's a world of difference between prototype parts (whether a wheel, an exhaust system, or a plasma drive) and production parts. Sometimes making the jump uncovers new information, or performance of a part simply changes once it's coming off "real" tools.

what did the stitching of SS on the suede seats not look right>? this is a 4+ yr old vehicle. drop a vette engine in it and see what happens. 2 years later

this concept has been making the show circuit for what 2 yrs now???
As I said before, there's a great deal more to it than many folks realize. "Dropping in a vette engine" in a prototype shop (for a show car) or in your own garage project is a little (read: a lot) different than doing it in a production vehicle.

What I don't understand is, why the hostility toward Chevy/GM? Personally, I'm glad that projects like this are actually seeing the light of day. With minor delays or otherwise. Cars like the TBSS, Solstice, V-Series and others would never have made it beyond John Moss' shop a few years back. I'm thrilled to see it happen today.

[Jman423]

WOW, this is like letting the wolves smell the meat, but not letting them have it, you guys are going nuts. :rotfl:

[westbayou]

Eh, I wouldn't say going nuts. If they are anything like me, they are just disappointed. REALLY disappointed. But you are right, it is like letting the wolves just smell the meat....

[SBK]

Eh, I wouldn't say going nuts. If they are anything like me, they are just disappointed. REALLY disappointed. But you are right, it is like letting the wolves just smell the meat....
As I said, I'm anxious to receive my truck as well. That aside, the delay is from one date (never officially announced) to a later date (also never officially announced). Now, if they had some big marketing campaign and a publicized SOP date tied to it, I could better understand the disappointment. Your previous concerns were that Chevy was being secretive about any official communication about the program. If they had published official info before, they would now be "eating official crow." As it is, they are late to a never-publicly-announced start date... :duh:

Sorta makes me wish I hadn't ever posted the info I did previously regarding my original target production date. Live and learn, as they say!

[nyraider56]

Truth be told, Chevy has said "Zip, Zero...Nada" about the TBSS. The TBSS website has been the same for the past several months. That includes the dealers as well. I was with a dealer that went to the internal Chevy Intranet and wasn't able to come up with any info on the TBSS. Also think about it, they haven't released MPG or any other stats. Everything that MotorTrend or any other published report has been a guess.

BTW, I also haven't heard anything official about this delay either. All this hoopla is based off of a supposed post on the Gminsidenews.com forum.

I'm frustrated and confused.... :confused: :no: :yes:

[TrailblazerSS]

BTW, I also haven't heard anything official about this delay either. All this hoopla is based off of a supposed post on the Gminsidenews.com forum.

I'm frustrated and confused.... :confused: :no: :yes:

Actually the story is based on my call to Chevrolet about my order. 4 weeks ago the factory accepted the order. It has not yet been scheduled for production. When pressed enough I was told they are not scheduling TB SS and all scheduled TB SS are on hold. It is a supplier issue. I suppose they don't want to say what it is because they want to work it out with the supplier.

My dealer had all the info available to them in late June. Not sure why your dealer couldn't find any info.

[nyraider56]

Actually the story is based on my call to Chevrolet about my order. 4 weeks ago the factory accepted the order. It has not yet been scheduled for production. When pressed enough I was told they are not scheduling TB SS and all scheduled TB SS are on hold. It is a supplier issue. I suppose they don't want to say what it is because they want to work it out with the supplier.

My dealer had all the info available to them in late June. Not sure why your dealer couldn't find any info.

Thanks for the info.

The reason that my dealership didn't know anything...is because they are dumb!!! :duh:

You need to understand this is a dealership that has an allocation of 1 Corvette per year.

[zrwon]

Ok, they're delayed for what ever reason, anyone have a price yet?
How about Canada, any price for us yet?

[homertime]

Ok, they're delayed for what ever reason, anyone have a price yet?
How about Canada, any price for us yet?

Pricing is on the website. $37,000 roughly fully loaded, $33,000 standard - of course + more for AWD

I'd assume just transfer US to canadian currency, but then again I don't know how different pricing is for you guys

[qtgirl_78]

OK...well, I don't know what you guys have heard or where you heard it from, but I have definitely seen this truck on the road. I was driving down to Detroit, and I saw a blue one on the road. It looked AWESOME!!! At first, I just thought it was a regular TB trying to be an SS with badges and the side moldings taken off, but the rims were the same as the pics, it was lower and it just looked authentic. If this was a fake, then it was a damn good one. Therefor, if there is a delay, I don't think it is in production. Maybe it is in shipment. Or something. I dunno...anyway, just my :m2:

[TrailblazerSS]

OK...well, I don't know what you guys have heard or where you heard it from, but I have definitely seen this truck on the road. I was driving down to Detroit, and I saw a blue one on the road. It looked AWESOME!!! At first, I just thought it was a regular TB trying to be an SS with badges and the side moldings taken off, but the rims were the same as the pics, it was lower and it just looked authentic. If this was a fake, then it was a damn good one. Therefor, if there is a delay, I don't think it is in production. Maybe it is in shipment. Or something. I dunno...anyway, just my :m2:

I'm sure you have seen them in Detroit. GM makes a pre production run and gives them to employees to drive to shakedown.

No customer vehicles have been built. My source says the problem was discovered during these shakedowns. Don't know how long it will take but they will not sell customer vehicles until this problem is fixed.

[zrwon]

Pricing is on the website. $37,000 roughly fully loaded, $33,000 standard - of course + more for AWD

I'd assume just transfer US to canadian currency, but then again I don't know how different pricing is for you guys
If it's $37k US, my guess is $50-55k Can. too much for the depreciation they will have to go through, my Envoy was $55k with tax when new, I bought it when it was 26 months old with 22k miles and paid under $25k, now let's hope the same thing will repeat itself with the SS and I'll have one in 2 years.

[TrailblazerSS]

Spoke with GM today. The production hold remains on the TB SS. They said my order would not be placed in the schedule until at least 9/26.

[westbayou]

Well isn't that just fantastic. Ugh, the wait continues. Half has me thinking about a Magnum SRT8....

[Envoy Fan]

Spoke with GM today. The production hold remains on the TB SS. They said my order would not be placed in the schedule until at least 9/26.

Any indication of what the actual problem is? :undecided

A friend of mine works at the Moraine assembly plant. He said that he has seen some of the TB SS's, probably pilot models.

When the TB's first came out, there was a recall on the front suspension. GM does not want to make a bad truck, so they are probably being very cautious and want to head off any problems. :m2:

[homertime]

Well isn't that just fantastic. Ugh, the wait continues. Half has me thinking about a Magnum SRT8....

yeah I thought about that too when it was released... then again I remembered:
It's a dodge
It's still a station wagon

[Envoy Fan]

It's a dodge


:x :o :eek: