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WBLMN
03-16-2005, 12:15 PM
Has anyone had problems with the memory seats. Mine is either not working properly or I'm not programming it correctly. I have set the position for #1, but I can't set it for #2. Do I have to have the #2 key in the ignition to set #2 to seat position.
jdits7
03-16-2005, 01:10 PM
This is what the owner's manual says:
Adjust the driver’s seat (including the seatback recliner and lumbar) and both of the outside mirrors to the desired position. Then press and hold button 1
(for driver 1) for three seconds. A double chime will sound to let you know that the position has been stored. A second mirror and seating position can be programmed by repeating the procedure with a second driver and pressing button 2 for three seconds. Each time button 1 or 2 is pressed and released while the vehicle is in PARK (P), a single chime will sound, and the memory position will be recalled.
If you use the unlock button on the remote keyless entry transmitter to enter your vehicle, the preset driver’s seat and mirror positions will be recalled if programmed to do so through the Driver Information Center (DIC). The numbers on the back of the transmitters, 1 or 2, correspond to the numbers on the memory controls.
The seat and mirror positions can also be recalled by placing the key in the ignition if programmed to do so through the Driver Information Center (DIC).
To stop recall movement of the memory feature at any time, press one of the power seat controls or memory buttons. Two personalized exit positions can be set by first recalling the driver’s position (by pressing 1 or 2), then positioning the seat in the desired exit position for that driver. Press and hold the button with the exit symbol for three seconds. A double chime will sound to let you know that the position has been stored. With the vehicle in PARK (P), the exit position for that driver can be recalled by pressing the exit button. The mirrors, power lumbar and recline positions will not be stored or recalled for the exit positions. If no exit position is stored, the default is all the way rearward. Further programming for automatic seat and mirror
movement can be done through the Driver Information Center (DIC). You may choose to either select or not select the following: Automatic seat and mirror movement when the vehicle is unlocked with the remote keyless entry,
automatic seat and mirror movement when a key is placed in the ignition, and
automatic seat movement to the exit position when the vehicle is in PARK (P).
Kinda long, sorry.
JD
04TBEXT
03-16-2005, 01:20 PM
WBLMN, What year is your T/B?...Some personalization features were deleted from the mid-year '05 models....
WBLMN
03-16-2005, 01:25 PM
Sorry, I have a 2002 Envoy. I have followed the directions in the owners manual. I don't get 2 beeps when trying to program #2.
04TBEXT
03-16-2005, 06:19 PM
WBLMN, I'll try to help you..please answer the following questions: 1.). Was any type of repair performed to the vehicle where your personalization settings were all of a sudden lost? 2). Are both of the transmitters used on a regular basis? 3.) Does the power door lock system work completely? 4). Do both of the transmitters lock & unlock the doors?...Please post your answers and I'll try to sort this out for you.
WBLMN
03-17-2005, 09:43 AM
No recent repair has been done, I just picked up the Envoy 2 weeks ago. The #1 remote is used more frequently, only used #2 a few times. Yes the power door locks are working like they are supposed to. Yes both transmitters work just fine.
I'm taking it back to the dealer today for them to look at it. Hopefully they will make it right since I just got it 2 weeks ago.
Thanks
WBLMN
03-17-2005, 06:53 PM
Problem fixed. It was a bad switch. The dealer covered the costs, so all is well.
XTREEME
03-20-2005, 06:44 PM
WBLMN, What year is your T/B?...Some personalization features were deleted from the mid-year '05 models....
You are correct about the 05's no longer having the option to automatically go to the set position on the keyfob unlock. You now have to actually press the memory button on the door to go to your set position.
Very strange to have this option removed.
02EnvoySLE Guy
03-20-2005, 10:14 PM
You are correct about the 05's no longer having the option to automatically go to the set position on the keyfob unlock. You now have to actually press the memory button on the door to go to your set position.
Very strange to have this option removed.
Hey at least it won't scare the crap out of me that the seat starts moving every time you put in the key.... I went to move a friend of my mom's '04 SLT out of my way in our driveway and about thought the truck was trying to crush me!
henrywp
03-21-2005, 12:37 AM
Yeah, I asked about that on my 05 cause I was originally told that it worked and stuff and then they came back and said that it had been removed on the 05's, which is weird because the remotes that they give us are still labeled 1 & 2. They said that they had been having too many problems on some of the older models and it wasn't worth it anymore, so they took it out of the software. Well, I guess enough people have complained so now they are working on a newer software version for it that will allow it to work.
XTREEME
03-21-2005, 08:43 AM
Yeah, I asked about that on my 05 cause I was originally told that it worked and stuff and then they came back and said that it had been removed on the 05's, which is weird because the remotes that they give us are still labeled 1 & 2. They said that they had been having too many problems on some of the older models and it wasn't worth it anymore, so they took it out of the software. Well, I guess enough people have complained so now they are working on a newer software version for it that will allow it to work.
Actually, I think the reasons are more along the lines that GM is losing a lot of money these days, as shown by the fact that their stock is almost at Junk status. :(
They are starting to take a lot of little luxury options away from their lines that they figure people don't really care about, but still charge the same or higher prices every year.
Also, I just heard that they have gone back to rear Drum brakes in their 05 trucks. Say what you want, I call that another example of trying to save the bottom line.
02EnvoySLE Guy
03-21-2005, 10:26 AM
Actually, I think the reasons are more along the lines that GM is losing a lot of money these days, as shown by the fact that their stock is almost at Junk status. :(
They are starting to take a lot of little luxury options away from their lines that they figure people don't really care about, but still charge the same or higher prices every year.
Also, I just heard that they have gone back to rear Drum brakes in their 05 trucks. Say what you want, I call that another example of trying to save the bottom line.
This is precisely why I'm just as happy I got one of the pre-"deluxified" trucks; as nice as the new trucks are (and they're adding other little touches which make them nicer than before) there are other things missing that I would rather have.
joeyd27
03-31-2005, 09:20 PM
Yeah, I asked about that on my 05 cause I was originally told that it worked and stuff and then they came back and said that it had been removed on the 05's, which is weird because the remotes that they give us are still labeled 1 & 2. They said that they had been having too many problems on some of the older models and it wasn't worth it anymore, so they took it out of the software. Well, I guess enough people have complained so now they are working on a newer software version for it that will allow it to work.
This has been my biggest complaint about the '05 Envoy. I called GM and complained twice about it.
Is it true that they are working on a new software version that will enable this feature? That is GREAT news.
Maybe the autodimming mirror was causing too many problems so they got rid of that also. I personally think they are trying to save too many $$$.
Pontiac dumped the mirror off their Grand Prix also.
Peppy
05-03-2005, 04:45 PM
I have been fighting with my used 2003 Envoy for the last couple of months wrt the seat moving on its own. I have reprogrammed it a few times, I bought a new keyfob and reprogrammed that one a few times. I tried programming the new fob and the old one, but the second one won't program. The DIC will switch back and forth between Driver 1 and Driver 2 when I put it in park, and the default for some reason in Driver 2 is the seat all the way back - even if I set it while in Driver 2. I can make the DIC switch back and forth just by hitting the lock/unlock on the fob. The only good thing is that all this only happens when the vehicle is either turned off or in park; I'm just waiting for it to happen while I'm driving.
So for all of you who complain that GMC removed this option in the newer vehicles, I wish I had your problem of having to hit the little button. If anyone has any other suggestions, I would welcome new ideas to try. I'm also still working with the dealer in trying to figure it out.
02EnvoySLE Guy
05-03-2005, 05:07 PM
I have been fighting with my used 2003 Envoy for the last couple of months wrt the seat moving on its own. I have reprogrammed it a few times, I bought a new keyfob and reprogrammed that one a few times. I tried programming the new fob and the old one, but the second one won't program. The DIC will switch back and forth between Driver 1 and Driver 2 when I put it in park, and the default for some reason in Driver 2 is the seat all the way back - even if I set it while in Driver 2. I can make the DIC switch back and forth just by hitting the lock/unlock on the fob. The only good thing is that all this only happens when the vehicle is either turned off or in park; I'm just waiting for it to happen while I'm driving.
So for all of you who complain that GMC removed this option in the newer vehicles, I wish I had your problem of having to hit the little button. If anyone has any other suggestions, I would welcome new ideas to try. I'm also still working with the dealer in trying to figure it out.
has the dealer re-flashed the PCM at all? Have them do so with their Tech2 Scan Tool; maybe putting the latest version of '03 software in it will fix the bug.
Peppy
05-04-2005, 09:06 AM
has the dealer re-flashed the PCM at all? Have them do so with their Tech2 Scan Tool; maybe putting the latest version of '03 software in it will fix the bug.
When I had it in a couple weeks ago, they told me they reset the programming. Don't know if that means the same thing, but I'll ask them. Is that something that I should be able to just drop by and they do in 5 minutes?
02EnvoySLE Guy
05-04-2005, 09:25 AM
When I had it in a couple weeks ago, they told me they reset the programming. Don't know if that means the same thing, but I'll ask them. Is that something that I should be able to just drop by and they do in 5 minutes?
Well it's going to take more than 5 minutes, but it shouldn't be something they need the truck all day for.
Another thing to check if that doesnt fix it (since it sounds like they may have already done the re-flash) would be a faulty switch in the door. If there is a contact which is somehow reading an input from the 1 or 2 buttons, it could be sending a signal to the PCM saying you want it to switch between 1 and 2 without you pressing anything.
herbie
06-01-2005, 07:26 PM
have had several problems with the memory seat moving into "exit posistion" while driving. I'd like to hear mor about problems others are having simmilar to this and what was done to fix this hazzard. :confused:
02EnvoySLE Guy
06-01-2005, 09:41 PM
have had several problems with the memory seat moving into "exit posistion" while driving. I'd like to hear mor about problems others are having simmilar to this and what was done to fix this hazzard. :confused:
Read the thread you just replied to -- the answer is directly above.
herbie
06-02-2005, 08:55 AM
No good. Everything has been looked at or changed in the doorand under the seat. Even had a new ign. switch installed with no luck. By design for safty seat can only be moved with switch on seat not by memory buttons, but mine will just start to move on its own.
Peppy
06-02-2005, 10:49 AM
Don't like to hear that. Sounds like you have had more work done than I have with no success. Mine will be fine for a couple of weeks, then start up again. If I keep reprogramming the fobs then that seems to fix it for a short while. My memory buttons don't seem to be able to remember the settings, so they only work for a few times. Do you also have an intermittent beeping coming from somewhere on the console? There are no alarm lights coming on, it just will beep then stop. Drives me nuts.
herbie
06-03-2005, 09:33 AM
No beeping. We can set all the memory settings and the next day they are changed again. What drives me nuts is the dealership keeps telling me that the have neve seen anything more than minor electrical problems in the Trailblazer.
Envoy Fan
06-03-2005, 11:48 AM
No beeping. We can set all the memory settings and the next day they are changed again. What drives me nuts is the dealership keeps telling me that the have neve seen anything more than minor electrical problems in the Trailblazer.
Maybe time to take it to another dealer. :m2:
herbie
06-06-2005, 09:31 AM
We have taken it to two different dealers and have be in contact with Chevrolet.
02EnvoySLE Guy
06-06-2005, 12:56 PM
We have taken it to two different dealers and have be in contact with Chevrolet.
Personally, here's my thought. Take it to a dealership that deals EXCLUSIVELY in Buicks and/or Cadillacs, maybe even Saturn. The customer service and quality of service work at the dealerships of these divisions seems to be much higher than other dealerships (from what I've seen) and they may be able to catch the problem better than other GM dealerships. Luckily they will also be able to handle the warranty work since it's still GM. :m2:
I have found that the minute you add Chevy, Pontiac, or GMC to a dealership that was dealing in Buick, Caddy, or Saturn, the service quality dive-bombs quickly.
DEZEL1
10-29-2005, 01:44 PM
What do we know about the memory option.
Mirrors, are they different?
Seats, normally have heat but are they same as a LTR heat set wo/Mem?
Modules, is there another controller for the memory?
What senses driver 1 or 2 ?
Buttons, needs just a wiring harness?
Also see
http://forums.trailvoy.com/showthread.php?t=1853