View Full Version : Winter and CAI!!!
ParadoxJr
09-22-2005, 02:38 AM
I just have a quick question.
Do I have to take off my CAI when winter comes??? And we get real winter here..
-40c... and colder on really bad day..
Russ
ScarabEpic22
09-22-2005, 03:20 AM
Just wondering, do you have the battery warmer thingy or whatever the engine heater is? I know its a gm part, but I was just wondering if you have it. In Seattle, we dont get any snow, :cry: so I have to go skiing to get some! :cool:
ParadoxJr
09-22-2005, 09:03 AM
Yes, I have a block heater. I use it once it hits -20C.
Russ
ieatglue
09-22-2005, 09:43 AM
I think we do have to remove our CAI durung the winter. what i'nm thinking is when snow collects on it, it'll freeze inside/around the cone...not sure tho
ieatglue
09-22-2005, 09:54 AM
Got this off another forum:
-I just wanted to know how many you guys remove your CAI during the winter?
-i do, its gonna go nuts in winter, so i'm just gonna put my regular filter back on,
but hey rubadubdub, if you dont take it off doesnt the snow get all into the filter?? i just want to know some info about the CAI
-I kept mine during one winter, i will never do it again. Anyway im not running my Golf in winter anymore. But your filter will get full of salt and calcium in just a few days... Very bad. But what i did is block the vent just in front of the filter so most of the ***** will not touch your filter. Doing it that way, that it not soo bad..
homertime
09-22-2005, 10:13 AM
Funny, I never thought of this...
that's so annoying that I might not bother with getting one now... no sense in having it sit around for 4-6 months
Is this only for ones with complete airbox removal?
i.e. would you still need to take out the Volant for winter???
Vince
09-22-2005, 10:36 AM
Maybe get one of those filter wrap things that K&N sells and clean it every few days. I think I am going to leave mine on all winter.
Boilermaker-744
09-22-2005, 11:20 AM
Funny, you guys are the only ones I have ever heard of doing this. Do you guys take off the CAI when it rains too, cause water can get in there :laugh: Water would be a lot easier to get in there than snow, and we all know what water does in an engine, where it isn't supposed to be. I seriously don't think you guys have anything to worry about. :m2:
ParadoxJr
09-22-2005, 11:45 AM
i wasn't worried about the snow..
I was worried about the -40c weather...
Russ
A K&N or other oil/cloth filter is going to hold up a whole lot better to a little snow than the stock paper element. Have you ever seen a paper element that has gotten wet?......it tears and damn near isintegrates, leaving holes for stuff to pass through.
You're also going to see a nice performance gain in Winter, sucking in that nice COLD DENSE air into the engine.
:m2:
Jman423
09-22-2005, 11:58 AM
Funny, I never thought of this...
that's so annoying that I might not bother with getting one now... no sense in having it sit around for 4-6 months
Is this only for ones with complete airbox removal?
i.e. would you still need to take out the Volant for winter???
I don't think the Volant would be a problem, the only thing that is different is that opening is a little bigger that the stock box... Besides, during the winter, your CAI becomes a true "COLD" Air Intake. :laugh:
jnicklo
09-22-2005, 12:05 PM
I don't think the Volant would be a problem, the only thing that is different is that opening is a little bigger that the stock box... Besides, during the winter, your CAI becomes a true "COLD" Air Intake. :laugh:
Took the words right out of my mouth. :)
blandmiller
09-22-2005, 02:44 PM
Why stop at the CAI, go ahead and put cardboard over the radiator so you can maintain coolant temperatures to run the heater. :laugh:
Sorry, I couldn't resist. Todays newer vehicles with the computer controls should not be affected by "normal" temperature ranges. The ECU will correct the timing and fuel curves based on the air density entering the intact tract.
Getting rid of the factory, restrictive, paper, corrugated intake tract filter has no negative benefits, in my opinion. I would not shy away from a CAI because you live in a low temperature climate......
ieatglue
09-22-2005, 05:34 PM
I was thinking of making a "True Flow" or a "Greddy"vinyl and sticking it on my CAI (i'm cheap :laugh: )
deathbynosleep
09-22-2005, 06:31 PM
Got this off another forum:
-I kept mine during one winter, i will never do it again. Anyway im not running my Golf in winter anymore. But your filter will get full of salt and calcium in just a few days... Very bad. But what i did is block the vent just in front of the filter so most of the ***** will not touch your filter. Doing it that way, that it not soo bad..
They are also talking about a Golf. It sits a lot lower than our trucks do.
ParadoxJr
09-22-2005, 06:52 PM
I wasn't even worried about the snow.. I was only worried about the temp... So I am good now.. lol
Russ
OurZoo
09-22-2005, 07:06 PM
The only thing anyone needs to worry about is there chrome rims!
ieatglue
09-22-2005, 08:09 PM
The only thing anyone needs to worry about is there chrome rims!
True, lucky for me, i don't have any.
ParadoxJr
09-22-2005, 08:19 PM
The only thing anyone needs to worry about is there chrome rims!
Me either... They are TOOOOOOOOOOO expensive in Canada... :cry:
ieatglue
09-22-2005, 08:49 PM
I was thinking. What if we paint our stock rims white. I think it would look pretty cool, and the inner line could be outlined in black.
OurZoo
09-23-2005, 11:45 AM
Sorry ieatglue, I think I'd be using the "throwing up" smilie if we had one!
ParadoxJr
09-24-2005, 12:11 AM
Sorry ieatglue, I think I'd be using the "throwing up" smilie if we had one!
Sorry but I will have to second that.. Painted rims suck... :duh:
Russ
ieatglue
09-24-2005, 12:22 AM
Ok then, powder coated rims..
And the throwing up smiley
http://www.myimghost.com/getimg/pumpkin.JPG (http://www.myimghost.com)
Jman423
09-24-2005, 12:23 AM
Ok then, powder coated rims..
And the throwing up smiley
http://www.myimghost.com/getimg/pumpkin.JPG (http://www.myimghost.com)
OK, thats just twisted. :laugh:
ieatglue
09-24-2005, 12:36 AM
I'm gonna make one like that this Halloween, scare little kids away :rotfl:
OurZoo
09-24-2005, 12:22 PM
That was good......
ScarabEpic22
09-24-2005, 04:34 PM
That was good......
You said it...:D
Kellyc
12-16-2005, 03:19 PM
Sorry to raise the dead with this thread, but it probably would be advisable to remove your CAI in our winter-peg winters. This is the first year with my TB but previously on my two other cars i had problems with the throttle body butterfly having ice build up on it due to the extreme cold, the worst was about 2 years ago when we had an extreme cold snap in the winter and it hit like -52C (with wind chill, and thats -62F for you down south) my throttle body was frozen half open, not a pleasent experience trying to thaw it when the weather was just working against you.
IMHO i would pull it plus it burns gas like a mofo because of the increase in cold air that dense.
thats just my :m2:
Putting the stock airbox back on for winter isn't going to stop the cold air from being drawn in, as the stock airbox is also CAI!.......Just not as free flowing, so it just doesn't enter quite as quickly. Take a look at the inlet horn, it pulls air from beside the a/c & radiator and not through it. That's the only inlet on the stock airbox, so when its -10 you're pulling in -10 air just over a smaller portion of the filter. (And don't forget the SS owners....they have a better CAI setup from the factory).
Just some food for thought
ParadoxJr
10-30-2006, 05:24 PM
Putting the stock airbox back on for winter isn't going to stop the cold air from being drawn in, as the stock airbox is also CAI!.......Just not as free flowing, so it just doesn't enter quite as quickly. Take a look at the inlet horn, it pulls air from beside the a/c & radiator and not through it. That's the only inlet on the stock airbox, so when its -10 you're pulling in -10 air just over a smaller portion of the filter. (And don't forget the SS owners....they have a better CAI setup from the factory).
Just some food for thought
Well Since I started this I thought I better bring it back to Life.
I just want to know if anyone else has an opinion on this subject?
sk_trailblaz
10-30-2006, 06:55 PM
I ran the Airaid CAI for two years on my ride through all extreme cold temps and had no problems to speak of :)
ieatglue
10-30-2006, 07:04 PM
I ran it last winter, didn't have any problems at all :D I don't think it get's affected in any way :undecided
ParadoxJr
10-31-2006, 02:14 AM
Sounds Good Too Me.
blktbz
10-31-2006, 08:48 AM
Mybe ill get more HP if i run it..itll be a super cold air intake:D
Nukedog
10-31-2006, 09:20 AM
i wasn't worried about the snow..
I was worried about the -40c weather...
Russ
Why? Unless it rains under the hood of your truck and freezes to the filter it doesn't matter if it is exposed or enclosed in the factory airbox...
paulz
11-02-2006, 08:06 AM
living in N.Y. i do see/feel a slighter difference when winter rolls around,
but would never thought of removing my (cai) for the winter, i haven't
had any problems over 2 years running mine in the winters here.