3.42 Gears, 4x4, Locker

My 06 TB has the wonderful 3.42 rear gears, open diff. and is 4x4. I have called several dealerships here in AZ and no one wants to put a locker in it for less than $3000 ...

Is this for real? I have seen many threads of others doing this for MUCH less, but are you guys 2 wheel drive? It seems the 4x2 can be done for cheap, but anyone with a 4x4 do this yet?

Locker install doesnt touch the front diff, so 2WD is the same as 4WD installs (unless you are trying to change the gear ratio to 3.73 or 4.10s).

You can get a locker off the internet for less than $500 and have it installed for a couple hundred more. the roadie will chime in shortly and help you out, I just know about how much it is and 3K is a rip.

The dealerships have told me the gear ratio would stay the same, but it would require part changes in the front end as well as the rear, including drive shafts. One guy, more helpful than the others listed off a dozen parts faster than I could write them down!

I can't imagine that dealerships out of state would be that much better, but I'd almost be willing to drive to California to have someone do it, if it's cheaper than here!

The dealerships have told me the gear ratio would stay the same, but it would require part changes in the front end as well as the rear, including drive shafts. One guy, more helpful than the others listed off a dozen parts faster than I could write them down!

I can't imagine that dealerships out of state would be that much better, but I'd almost be willing to drive to California to have someone do it, if it's cheaper than here!

Blowing smoke is what they are doing, from what I know a locker install basically consists of removing the diff cover, pulling the old gears out and swapping the new ones in (more involved, but basically). Nothing up front needs to be changed as the GMT360 doesnt have a locking front diff and none are available. Only part you need is the locker for your gear ratio and to have it installed.

Erik's right. The dealerships are admitting they don't have the horsepower to do the job, or their last competent driveline tech just quit. AlekG had a G80 break on him, and he got it replaced relatively easily. Others have installed G80 upgrades to open diffs. Less than $1000.

If they're talking a dozen parts, they might be misremembering the 2000-2001 Trailblazer, which was a trim level of the S10/S15 Blazer, which *did* have a front locker available. To install TWO lockers on those buggies might involve driveshaft work, but I severely doubt it. And it might cost $3000.

Otherwise, you just have the misfortune to live in the land of incompetent dealers. Try an offroad shop instead, and tell them they (or you) can get the part from Randy's Ring and Pinion http://www.ringpinion.com/. If they're not familiar with Randy's, then they're not a real offroad shop. Find another.

Otherwise, you just have the misfortune to live in the land of incompetent dealers. Try an offroad shop instead, and tell them they (or you) can get the part from Randy's Ring and Pinion http://www.ringpinion.com/. If they're not familiar with Randy's, then they're not a real offroad shop. Find another.

One thing not to forget is to also get the full installation kit which comes with shims, bearings, etc. The one that the helpfull sales guy sold to me specifically for the 8" rear was from Yukon gear. My mechanic said that the price ($135 or so, I think) was outstanding because if he had to source all the parts separately, it would come to much, more.

P.S. Randy's has updated their web site (no pricing though) and has some interesting info. I don't know how accurate their database is these days however as they list the H3 as having the 8" rear diff (which I think is not correct), and they put a 7.6" for the Trailblazer FRONT years 2004-2006? I don't know whats going on there ...

AG

P.S. Randy's has updated their web site (no pricing though) and has some interesting info. I don't know how accurate their database is these days however as they list the H3 as having the 8" rear diff (which I think is not correct), and they put a 7.6" for the Trailblazer FRONT years 2004-2006? I don't know whats going on there ...Yeah, except I'm still in Manila, it's time to call Randy's and find out where they got that data. I read on the Hummer forums about their rear being 8", but I think they have a stronger shaft design with more splines, so their e-locker won't fit us. Of course, that begs the question, if the pumpkin was the same, could we upgrade to their e-locker, shafts, *and* hub/lug pattern? Naw, probably easier to swap in a whole axle from a crashed H3.

Front is 185mm metric AAM design, which is 7.283". 7.6" has to be a typo, or bad vendor data.

Yeah, except I'm still in Manila, it's time to call Randy's and find out where they got that data. I read on the Hummer forums about their rear being 8", but I think they have a stronger shaft design with more splines, so their e-locker won't fit us. Of course, that begs the question, if the pumpkin was the same, could we upgrade to their e-locker, shafts, *and* hub/lug pattern? Naw, probably easier to swap in a whole axle from a crashed H3.

The problem is that under the 8" rear that they say the H3 has (same as us) they don't list any 4.56 gears for replacement, the H3 only comes with 4.56 correct? So if you were an H3 owner, you would be out of luck? I don't think so. I think the H3 has the 8.6" rear that the V8 Trailvoys (and Buick) have.

If the H3 is an 8", then my mission could drastically change. At a much reduced cost (would not have to locate an 8.6" rear axle), I could put 4.56 gears in the rear and front, and keep the G80 locker. The only thing that would kaibosh that would be if the H3 pinion had a different number of pinion splines.

I'll give Randy's a call over the next couple of days ...

AG

What we need is a $400 tru trac to fit these things.DTS has the oem g80
new for $601.

My 06 TB has the wonderful 3.42 rear gears, open diff. and is 4x4. I have called several dealerships here in AZ and no one wants to put a locker in it for less than $3000 ...

Is this for real? I have seen many threads of others doing this for MUCH less, but are you guys 2 wheel drive? It seems the 4x2 can be done for cheap, but anyone with a 4x4 do this yet?

prayers sent :D

My first post on this board...:)

For those of us that have an extended (129 inch) wheelbase TB/Envoy, it seems that we have the 8.625 inch ring gear and can therefore get all kinds of nice aftermarket differential parts.

The dealer was USELESS in determining what my options were. But last week (12/28), West Coast Differentials, in Sacramento, CA helped me confirm that the ring gear size on my '03 Envoy XL 4.2L with 4x4 and 3.42 gears was indeed an 8.625. They then quoted me $645 for the parts and installation with a Trutrack or $775 for an Eaton clutch type limited slip. Full lockers were also possible, but I'm not really in the market for that. They said the install would take less than half a day.

As soon as I've paid off a couple of Christmas bills, I'm gettin' her done. :D

My first post on this board...:)

For those of us that have an extended (129 inch) wheelbase TB/Envoy, it seems that we have the 8.625 inch ring gear and can therefore get all kinds of nice aftermarket differential parts. :DWelcome, and hope that the community can answer any other questions you might have! Nice find on the EXT. When you go in there, or if you call them again, any chance you can confirm that there is nothing available for the SWB 8" rear? And also nothing for the 185mm AAM front diff we share with the H3? Thx!

I don't suppose you're moddng your XL for the Rubicon.:no:

Can somebdoy else please confirm if these will fit our trucks??

http://www.stylinconcepts.com/part.aspx/partid/474337/partfamilyid/1392/subcategoryid/338/categoryid/28

Don't know about that one, but there's one here: http://completeoffroad.com/wsm/c-129_gm_80_trailblazer__envoy.html that should fit. They have a full set of gears in all ratios, install kits and an auto-locker 'POSI' assembly for the GMT360 platform. Book marked it for if I decide to do a gear swap! :) They also have replacement gears for our front axles as well.

Can somebdoy else please confirm if these will fit our trucks??

http://www.stylinconcepts.com/part.aspx/partid/474337/partfamilyid/1392/subcategoryid/338/categoryid/28

They will not. 8.2" is not 8.0" (SWB) or 8.6" (EXT). That 8.2" set is listed on another site as fitting the following list of vehicles:

Camaro 67-71
Caprice 65-71
El Camino 64-71
Impala 65-72
Monte Carlo 70-72
Nova, Chevy II, Chevelle 64-72
Sprint 71-72

Don't know about that one, but there's one here: http://completeoffroad.com/wsm/c-129_gm_80_trailblazer__envoy.html that should fit. They have a full set of gears in all ratios, install kits and an auto-locker 'POSI' assembly for the GMT360 platform. Book marked it for if I decide to do a gear swap! :)That's a good collection of factory ratios. And the locker they list is described as "FACTORY POSI UNIT Price: $469.00 " so I bet ANYTHING that it's the Eaton automatic locker G80. They also have replacement gears for our front axles as well.Got a link? What I see on their site is front 7.2" IFS gears for S10 (GMT330/325 platform) , S15, and "Trailblazer", but it's not OUR GMT360 Trailblazer.

Pre-2002, the vehicle lineup was like this:

* GMT 325
o Chevrolet S10
o GMC S15
o GMC Sonoma

* GMT 330
o Chevrolet Blazer
o GMC Jimmy
o GMC Envoy
o Oldsmobile Bravada

Post-2002:

* GMT 305
o 2004–2005 GMC Envoy XUV
* GMT 360
o 2002–2007 Chevrolet TrailBlazer
o 2002–2007 GMC Envoy
o 2002–2004 Oldsmobile Bravada
o 2003–2007 Isuzu Ascender
o 2004–2007 Buick Rainier
o 2005–2007 Saab 9-7X
* GMT 370
o 2002–2006 Chevrolet TrailBlazer EXT
o 2002–2006 GMC Envoy XL

The GMT330 Blazer was V6 engined, and came in LS, LT, and its top of the line trim level Trailblazer. This confusing designation lives on in MANY parts supplier's databases, and you have to look VERY carefully to not get your hopes up. Anytime a listing also includes S10 and S15, you can be sure it's not for OUR platform. We (and the H3) are the ONLY vehicles to use a metric sized AAM725 185mm aluminum case front differential.

Don't get anything done at a stealeship unless it's warrenty work. Setting up a diff shouldn't comst more thena $400 tops + parts, and $400 is a little high.

Get an aftermarket rear diff and stay away from the breakage prone G80's..

Get an aftermarket rear diff and stay away from the breakage prone G80's..I predicted we'll see all these sorts of projects done as well as solid front axle swaps as soon as the population of trailvoys out there starts to age. When somebody can buy a beater for a few thousand bucks, then it becomes project-worthy. When people are still paying $300-600 a month for their new vehicles, it's less likely they'll rip into 'em too aggressively. For instance, some folks are astonished I've still got a monthly payment on my 2004 (for a little bit longer) and I wheel it, but I really try hard not to break anything.

I should start a pool, though. When I finally *do* break something, I'm betting it will be a CV joint. But it could be the front diff, tie rod, transfer case, G80, or something surprising. ;)

I should start a pool, though. When I finally *do* break something, I'm betting it will be a CV joint. But it could be the front diff, tie rod, transfer case, G80, or something surprising. ;)

Hi Roadie, my moneys on the CV joint. :)

My experience has been something major usually breaks right around the next to last payment!

Hmm, I remember a couple of months back having the Trailblazer/Envoy 2002+ gears listed on the bottom of the page, but now they're gone. Odd thing is that our front gears are standard American Axle 7.25 gears....same used in several other lines. - Let me check my other book-marks, seems to me there was another place that had those gears and I *think* I may have book-marked them as well.

Note: Read to the end - news from ARB about lockers! Hmm, I remember a couple of months back having the Trailblazer/Envoy 2002+ gears listed on the bottom of the page, but now they're gone. Odd thing is that our front gears are standard American Axle 7.25 gears....same used in several other lines. - Let me check my other book-marks, seems to me there was another place that had those gears and I *think* I may have book-marked them as well.Digging ever deeper on your hint, I found Randy's Ring and Pinion has a vehicle list for the AAM differential here (http://www.ringpinion.com/DiffDetails.aspx?DiffID=38&PartsLink=PartCats.aspx%3fSearchMode%3dDiff%26Type ID%3d5%26Type%3dGM%26DiffID%3d38%26DiffName%3dGM+7 .2):

Compatible with Models:
Astro / Safari Van: 1990 - 2005 (Front)
Envoy: 2002 - 2005 (Front)
H3: 2006 - 2006 (Front)
S10 Blazer & Pickup: 1983 - 2002 (Front)
Syclone: 1991 - 1991 (Front)
Trailblazer: 2002 - 2005 (Front)
Typhoon: 1992 - 1993 (Front)

So I might have been wrong all along! Oh, the shame. :o :o :o It also fries my butt because my previous vehicle was a Safari van AWD, which would have had one of the same diffs. The Blazer, Astro, and S10 going way back might have had the cast iron version of the AAM725, but that's no reason the gears wouldn't fit the aluminum housing version! Ack!

Oddly enough, our "through oil pan" version of the AAM725 was touted in a press release in 2001 here (http://aam.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=press_releases&item=535):

American Axle & Manufacturing Holdings, Inc. (AAM) which is traded as AXL on the NYSE, today introduced the Integrated Oil Pan (IOP) front axle module with electronic disconnect which will be used in the all-new 2002 General Motors mid-sized Trailblazer, Envoy and Bravada sport utility vehicles. The IOP front axle module will be on display at the 2001 SAE World Congress held in Detroit, March 5-8, 2001.

"The selection by General Motors of AAM's IOP front-axle module for its new SUV program demonstrates GM's continued confidence in our people, technology, products, processes, systems, and performance," says AAM President & Chief Operating Officer Joel D. Robinson.

The IOP front axle module was designed and developed by AAM engineers to meet customer needs for improved performance, durability, weight reduction, packaging, operating temperature control, and vehicle system electrical interface compatibility and control.

Torque from the vehicle driveline system is transmitted to the IOP front axle, halfshafts, and ultimately, the front wheels, when the vehicle is engaged in four wheel drive. When the vehicle is in two wheel drive, the electronic disconnect uncouples the front axle from the driveline system to allow for reduced rolling friction. The IOP uses a precision electrical actuator to engage the shift mechanism and provide feedback to the vehicle's driveline control system -- indicating the vehicle is in four wheel drive.

The IOP provides a central point of engagement that, along with the transfer case disconnect, reduces the number of rotating parts. The electronic actuator provides consistent "on-demand" engagements over the life of the vehicle. Both features reduce vehicle system parasitic losses (inefficiencies) found in traditional four-wheel-drive systems.

"The IOP front axle module includes innovative and evolutionary design improvements over current axle designs which yield significant improvements in vehicle performance, ease of manufacturing, and driveline durability," says Daniel V. Sagady P.E., vice president, Engineering & Product Development.

The IOP front axle assembly features a cast aluminum housing and die-cast aluminum shift fork, lifetime lubrication, enhanced durability seals and 15 new components. It is produced using a state-of-the-art automated manufacturing process at AAM's Detroit Gear & Axle plant in Detroit, Michigan.

So the Yukon Gear 4.56 set listed at Randy's here (http://www.ringpinion.com/PartsList.aspx?SearchMode=Diff&TypeID=5&Type=GM&DiffID=38&DiffName=GM+7.2&CatID=10&CatName=Rings+%26+Pinions&CatType=Sub-Differential) is the one used in the H3. Cool!

So where's our rear SWB 8.0" differential gears? Oh, Randy's also has those here (http://www.ringpinion.com/DiffDetails.aspx?DiffID=42&PartsLink=PartCats.aspx%3fSearchMode%3dDiff%26Type ID%3d5%26Type%3dGM%26DiffID%3d42%26DiffName%3dGM%2 b8.0):

10 bolt rear cover with 8" ring gear. Has 28 spline c/clip axles.

Ring Gear Diameter:
Ring Gear Bolts: (10) 7/16 x 20 LH
Cover Bolts: 10
Carrier Breaks: 3.08 / 3.31
Spline Count: 1.438 / 25
Float: SF
Semi-Float Type:
Pinion Support: False
Axle Lugs:

Compatible with Models:
Envoy: 2002 - 2006 (Rear)
H3: 2006 - 2006 (Rear)
Trailblazer: 2002 - 2006 (Rear)

BUT, only the three standard gear ratios are listed, not the 4.56 for the H3. But since the Hummer has the electrically controlled locker, and lt's likely custom because Randy's doesn't list it as available, their 4.56 gear might be custom for GM as well. Rats.

Just cruised the H3 forums again, to see if there's anything to get hopeful for. FINALLY, there is!

""H3 will be released in Australia in 2007. We'll have products for it soon
after."

Jim Jackson
President
ARB-USA
720 SW 34TH STREET
RENTON, WA 98057-4814"

Somebody asked a followup question, and the answer was: "After a couple more emails to him, it appears that their first product that will be released will be front and rear differentials with thier air lockers."

YAY!!!!!!!!

sweet find roadie!!!! UGGHH u've just made me decide to spend some more money :P

Hey Roadie,

great find about the original AAM press release. That's the stuff I was talking about at Randy's also, however, I don't want to be a downer, but I dug up some info that just confuses me even more.

First, take a look at this link:http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/eventcoverage/131_0602_2006_4x4_of_year/hummer_h3.html
So Peterson's Offroad lists the H3 as having:
Front: IFS with AAM 7.63-inch center
Rear: Solid AAM 8-inch with selectable locker
Ratio: 4.56:1

Second, I just picked up Four Wheeler magazine and their 2007 Four Wheeler of the Year. Here is what they list the H3 as having:
Front: AAM 7.6-inch ring gear
Rear: AAM 8.6-inch ring gear
Ratio: 4.56:1

What's going on? Doesn't anybody know the exact specs? "The truth must be out there!"

So here's the problem:

My Helm's shop manual says: Front Drive Axle (7.25 in Axle). I take this to mean a 7.25 ring gear, which is backed up by Randy's data, which would make it the AAM 725 (185mm) unit:
http://www.aam.com/technology/tech_prod_dl_frontaxle725.html
which has 4.56 gears available, which therefore makes sense in the H3.

But this is at odds with both magazines which state the H3 has the AAM 7.6 (195mm) unit:
http://www.aam.com/technology/tech_prod_dl_frontaxle763.html
but on AAM's web site it lists only 3.42 - 3.73 gears available, and its cast iron, which is also at odds with all the H3 guys saying their front unit is aluminum.

So either the magazines are right and GM developed custom 4.56 gears for the AAM 7.6, or the magazines are wrong and we all share the aluminum 7.25.

BTW, it looks like Randy's has piggy-backed onto Yukon Gear's database:
http://www.yukongear.com/Makes.aspx?SearchMode=Make

Man, I'm so confused now I just want to call someone and talk to them for about an hour ...

And don't get me started on the H3's rear. Is it the 8 inch like we have? And if so, how do we get the 4.56 gears that they have? Or is it the 8.6 inch like the V8 trailvoys have?

ARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


AG

Welcome, and hope that the community can answer any other questions you might have! Nice find on the EXT. When you go in there, or if you call them again, any chance you can confirm that there is nothing available for the SWB 8" rear? And also nothing for the 185mm AAM front diff we share with the H3? Thx!

I don't suppose you're moddng your XL for the Rubicon.:no:

Thanks for the welcome Roadie,

Sorry to tell you, :( but when we were trying to prove the 8.6" was in the EXT the guys at the shop were emphatic that the only thing out there for the 8" was the G80 locker. They were pretty down on the G80 "grenade" as the guys called it, and the shop owner said that they had seen a lot of failures and did a lot of removals of them from the whole line of GM trucks. On the front end, he did say that there WILL be things coming out for it due to the high demand from the H3's, but they didn't know of anything yet. So keep your fingers crossed.

I'm not quite brave enough to try any serious offroading with the XL. With the SSMRB's (Short Spouse Mandated Running Boards) and the trucks long wheelbase and vulnerable side sills, it's not very confidence inspiring in rough stuff. It climbs pretty well and does well enough in mud but just isn't "fun"... you have to think too much. I think your SWB version is much better suited for that sort of stuff. I'm mostly just looking for improved on road performance in snow/rain situations, no Rubiconing.

What's going on? Doesn't anybody know the exact specs? "The truth must be out there!"I'm very sure the magazines are wrong about the front end.But this is at odds with both magazines which state the H3 has the AAM 7.6 (195mm) unit:
http://www.aam.com/technology/tech_prod_dl_frontaxle763.html
but on AAM's web site it lists only 3.42 - 3.73 gears available, and its cast iron, which is also at odds with all the H3 guys saying their front unit is aluminum.More confirmation the magazines are wrong. The aluminum case is so mismatched to the stress of trail riding with 4700 pound vehicles that H3's are destroying front diffs like crazy. One rumor from a service department had GM extending the warranty to 100K miles for the front diff. only.
And don't get me started on the H3's rear. Is it the 8 inch like we have? And if so, how do we get the 4.56 gears that they have? Or is it the 8.6 inch like the V8 trailvoys have?Even the Hummer forums are unsure, but I just searched again, and one poster guessed it was the AAM860, which is 8.6". We know it's made by AAM because of their press releases and Annual Report. Of course the H3 wheelers are destroying those too, but almost all of them are still in warranty, so GM's eating a lot of replacements.

This is going to sound dumb, but I remember somebody posting they needed to buy a carrier when switching from 3.42 gears to 4.10 gears a few months back and ended up having to get one via the dealer. BUT, the carrier breaks on the SWB's 8.0 rear shows as 3.08 & 3.31.....wouldn't that mean that ALL three of the factory axle ratios should use the same carrier or am I missing something?

If I can get away with just having to replace the ring/pinion and seals to swap mine, its going to be a done deal come spring! (I'd also like the add in the G80, but not so sure seeing how they're referring to it as the grenade-80....of course I don't plan on going off-road and have the 4x4 more for bad weather).

Has anybody actually taken apart a front diff on their truck and if so, are there any case gaskets? .... I've been under mine a couple of times and there doesn't appear to be a gasket between the case halves. (Hey, the old air-cooled VW motors only used a VERY thin oiled paper gasket to mate the two engine halves, so who knows).

I'd also like the add in the G80, but not so sure seeing how they're referring to it as the grenade-80..... I had no idea that the G80s had a bad rap. I've had plenty of them and never a problem, but I've never been a hardcore off-roader like Roadie or some of the others. Do the G80s really have that bad of a rap?

I had no idea that the G80s had a bad rap. I think they are mocked among the real hard-core because they have lots of little parts and any one of them can break if you over-spin the loose tire before it locks up. I'm very careful to use limited throttle and even some left foot braking when I know I have a wheel in the air, before the G80 engages. I've had plenty of them and never a problem, but I've never been a hardcore off-roader like Roadie or some of the others. Before I get in trouble with bad karma or anything, I'm only hard-core in relation to most trailvoy owners. :o I can't ever admit to wheeling on Envoy on the real offroad forums! None of them (especially the real hard-core pirate4x4.com) even TALK about trailvoys. :x At least not until some beaters start making it to the used market.

I took crap from real offroad guys about my Dodge Dakota with a 6" lift and 33s. It went a lot of places many of us didn't think it could (you get a lot of confidence when one of the vehicles available to yank you out of that mess is sporting a Chevy big block, 48s and front and rear lockers), but it was definitely limited compared a "true" offroad truck.

What have you done to your Envoy Roadie (if you don't mind me asking)?

For instance, some folks are astonished I've still got a monthly payment on my 2004 (for a little bit longer) and I wheel it, but I really try hard not to break anything.


BwaaaaHaaahaahahahahaha

Then let me surprise them more...
I just made my FIRST payment on my '06 LS and I am already ripping into it.

I took crap from real offroad guys about my Dodge Dakota with a 6" lift and 33s.... but it was definitely limited compared a "true" offroad truck.When they say "true", I hear "extreme". I've had my Envoy places that I KNOW no other Envoy has ever been. It takes me to trailheads for hiking, brings me and my camera to unbelievable vistas, and allows me to camp in absolute solitude in canyons untouched by city or town light or noise pollution. It all depends on your mission. It's not all about extreme trails for the sake of the trail. It's not all about mud. For me, it's about the destination. What's at the END of the trail. In the upper pic overlooking the Borrego Valley, the far mountain range is over 60 miles away.

http://www.roadie.org/or6.jpg

http://www.roadie.org/or7.jpg

What have you done to your Envoy Roadie (if you don't mind me asking)?That's the essence of the forum, to share mods! Check my profile for the whole list. Pictures are available here (http://www.roadie.org) and also in threads you can search for with names like "Offroad with the Roadie", "More offroad with the roadie", and "Roadie's rock sliders", for instance.

As soon as I have enough posts, I'll take a look at your profile. I have so few posts I can't even view my own profile. ;)

As soon as I have enough posts, I'll take a look at your profile. I have so few posts I can't even view my own profile. ;)Ooooo. Sorry. I had no idea the site locked you out of that as well. Get up to ten posts, and I think the world opens up!

Anyway, just to tease you :p , here's my mod list:

Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor LT265/70-17 tires
BDS Suspension lift kit
1.5" SuspensionMAXX spacers (rear only)
1.5" billet aluminum wheel spacers
Airlift 1000 rear coil bags
Airlift on-board compressor
Custom Airlift control/gauge installation in console
Optima yellow top battery
EFILive Scan and Tune software
PCMForLess.com tune
Redline Hood Lift
Surco Safari roof rack with offroad lights
HiLift jack
Pull-Pal winch anchor - 9000# rating
Front 2" hitch receiver - Curt #31055
Mile Marker 9000 lb winch with hitch mount (front and rear)
Factory skid shields
Spare tire carrier for hitch
Customsense.biz emblem inlays and custom "Rubicon" decals
Temporary bumper fascia and plastic rocker panel skin removal for trail runs
Custom rock sliders (steel tubing, black Herculined) welded to the frame - fabbed by Stinkyfab in Vista, CA
Fire extinguishers (2)
Commercial First Aid kit
800W AC inverter - wired-in
Custom 2-drawer storage unit in cargo compartment, carpeted outside, ball bearing slides
Motion Computing M1400 tablet PC with 12" "View Anywhere" sunlight readable display w/ GPS and Topo maps
RAM-Mount articulated laptop arm mounted to no-drill seat anchor base plate.
RAM-mount for roof-suction-cup Roadie-cam.
JVC Digital video camera with image stabilization (Roadie-cam)
Autotap OBDII diagnostic scanner for data link analysis and display
Delorme Earthmate GPS receiver
Garmin E-Trex VISTA-C GPS handheld receiver w/ articulated mount
CB and FRS for off-road communication

Ooooo. Sorry. I had no idea the site locked you out of that as well. Get up to ten posts, and I think the world opens up!

Anyway, just to tease you :p , here's my mod list:

Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor LT265/70-17 tires
BDS Suspension lift kit
1.5" SuspensionMAXX spacers (rear only)
1.5" billet aluminum wheel spacers
Airlift 1000 rear coil bags
Airlift on-board compressor
Custom Airlift control/gauge installation in console
Optima yellow top battery
EFILive Scan and Tune software
PCMForLess.com tune
Redline Hood Lift
Surco Safari roof rack with offroad lights
HiLift jack
Pull-Pal winch anchor - 9000# rating
Front 2" hitch receiver - Curt #31055
Mile Marker 9000 lb winch with hitch mount (front and rear)
Factory skid shields
Spare tire carrier for hitch
Customsense.biz emblem inlays and custom "Rubicon" decals
Temporary bumper fascia and plastic rocker panel skin removal for trail runs
Custom rock sliders (steel tubing, black Herculined) welded to the frame - fabbed by Stinkyfab in Vista, CA
Fire extinguishers (2)
Commercial First Aid kit
800W AC inverter - wired-in
Custom 2-drawer storage unit in cargo compartment, carpeted outside, ball bearing slides
Motion Computing M1400 tablet PC with 12" "View Anywhere" sunlight readable display w/ GPS and Topo maps
RAM-Mount articulated laptop arm mounted to no-drill seat anchor base plate.
RAM-mount for roof-suction-cup Roadie-cam.
JVC Digital video camera with image stabilization (Roadie-cam)
Autotap OBDII diagnostic scanner for data link analysis and display
Delorme Earthmate GPS receiver
Garmin E-Trex VISTA-C GPS handheld receiver w/ articulated mount
CB and FRS for off-road communication

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:D just playing, i can't wait to see an IFS and front locker with 4.56 gears in there! ;)

Are the G80's really that weak? I will probably never off road mine. I just use the 4x4 for winter conditions. I'm such a baby about getting my truck dirty. I know, I know i should have bought a saturn then. But once you have 4 wheel drive you can never go back. Mark.

Very cool. Looks like you spent some time getting it set up. As much as I'd love to, I doubt I'll be doing too many mods in the near future. Nothing says I can't start laying plans though.

Are the G80's really that weak? I will probably never off road mine. I just use the 4x4 for winter conditions. I'm such a baby about getting my truck dirty. I know, I know i should have bought a saturn then. But once you have 4 wheel drive you can never go back. Mark.You should be fine. I've never had a problem with any of mine and usually only do light four-wheeling. Just don't spin the tires real fast. Take it slow until the locker kicks in, which is pretty quick, and then spin them if needed. I usually won't let it spin above 20 mph because the locker will disengage at that speed. At least that use to be the speed.

You should be fine. I've never had a problem with any of mine and usually only do light four-wheeling. Just don't spin the tires real fast. Take it slow until the locker kicks in, which is pretty quick, and then spin them if needed. I usually won't let it spin above 20 mph because the locker will disengage at that speed. At least that use to be the speed.

Thank You! Mark