06-07 TBSS Efan Kits, Taking orders!

[AlvinPCMforless]

We are pleased to announce our Efan kit to the public. Here are some key attributes of our Efan kit.


Absolutely no modification needed to vehicle. No cutting, splicing, drilling on the vehicle at all.
Retains factory hardware and hardware supplied is a factory black finish.
Quality harness including weather pack seals and OEM connectors. I doubt you would ever find such a nice harness.
2-Speed ECM directly controlled.
Uses commonly available either used or new LS1 F-body (98-02 V8) electric fans. We have used these same fans in stroker/blower F-bodys to make over 600rwhp.
4 electrical hookups (power, gnd, fan hi, fan low). No splicing involved.
Brackets are powder coated flat black for stock appearance
Gains of 12-15rwhp and 1mpg are typical!!



Introductory pricing is as follows.


Complete harness including all OEM connectors, pins, relays, fuse links, etc
$139
Brackets for LS1 fans
$20
Complete fan kit
$159.00


A special tune is required to operate our fans on both 06 and now 07 TBSS's. The factory tune will not operate these fans!!!

The tuning is a no-cost option to those who are customers of Pcmforless.com. If you are a past customer all we ask is that you cover shipping.

If you are a DIY-tuner, OR a customer of someone else please contact me (Alvin) on a one by one basis. As a company with one of the best reputations across the internet for being fair and always at a reasonable price you can be sure that our deal will not break the bank.

Should you decide to go with our tuning we have the following limited time specials.


$150 Tuning 06-07 TBSS (send in/exchange)
$309 Tuning + Efan harness and brackets 06-07 TBSS (send in/exchange)
$325 Tuning 06's ONLY New PCM/TCM tuned No core charges involved. You keep the PCM/TCM
$484 Tuning 06's ONLY New PCM/TCM tuned + Efan harness and brackets. No core charges involved You keep the PCM/TCM


*Shipping not included. Priority $15, Express $30


We do not sale the fans at the moment. We just cannot offer the same deal that GM part wholesalers can. I may change that in the future. Here are a few of your options.


$275-$300 Buy the fans new from a GMparts wholesaler.
$50-$100 for a used set. Can be easily found on LS1tech.com, Ebay.com, Car-part.com, etc. I personally had a set left over from a Turbo Camaro. I'm doing another 07 soon and the owner has a procharged Trans Am so we are going to use them. Alot of people have these laying around.



Here are some pictures installed. Check back later today, I might update these with some higher quality photos

http://www.pcmforless.com/images/TBSS%20Fans/PCM4less%20fans%20012.jpg

http://www.pcmforless.com/images/TBSS%20Fans/PCM4less%20fans%20018.jpg


http://www.pcmforless.com/images/TBSS%20Fans/PCM4less%20fans%20031.jpg




Fan only results. The only change on this vehicle was the addition of our EFan kit. For larger image
http://www.pcmforless.com/images/dynosheets/TBSSefan.jpg
http://www.pcmforless.com/images/dynosheets/TBSSefansmall.jpg

[Saladbar]

Will a set of LT1 fans work w/ your harness? I've got a set of LT1 fans that I'm planning to use. I believe the connector is the same.

[AlvinPCMforless]

Yes, the connector is the same.


The brackets should also work as they are pretty much the same. however no guarentees.. Prehaps you can try that for us? :)

[TrailLaser]

I found this deal on ebay for those of you that may want to purchase the fan harness from PCMFORLESS.COM and do not already have the fans.

These are brand new corvette LS1 fans: Only 9 available

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHEVY-CORVETTE-NEW-DUAL-FAN-ASSEMBLY-1998-2004-fans_W0QQitemZ7995946200QQihZ019QQcategoryZ33600QQ rdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

[AlvinPCMforless]

Thats awesome however the kit was built around F-Body fans.


This looks like it might be the right ticket. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHEVY-CAMARO-NEW-DUAL-FAN-ASSEMBLY-1998-2002-fans_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33600QQihZ019QQite mZ7995945816#ebayphotohosting

Prehaps I'll order a set just to check them out!

[TrailLaser]

Thats awesome however the kit was built around F-Body fans.


This looks like it might be the right ticket. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHEVY-CAMARO-NEW-DUAL-FAN-ASSEMBLY-1998-2002-fans_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33600QQihZ019QQite mZ7995945816#ebayphotohosting

Prehaps I'll order a set just to check them out!

Wow, i didnt see those... Same vendor too. Some great deals out there! :undecided
PS- I'll be back in town next week and give you a call about the harness / tune.
Thanks again-

[02-Bravada-88]

Got any Efans for a straight-six Bravada or Trailblazer???? lol





:D

[ScarabEpic22]

Got any Efans for a straight-six Bravada or Trailblazer???? lol

:D

Only for the 06+ w/MAF guys as they have a V8 PCM which can be adapted easily via software for the efans. You and I are still out of luck, but when my fan clutch dies I will find a way to get efans to work on my truck.

[ghoster]

Only for the 06+ w/MAF guys as they have a V8 PCM which can be adapted easily via software for the efans. You and I are still out of luck, but when my fan clutch dies I will find a way to get efans to work on my truck.


And when you get them to work on yours, I want you to call me immediately!:cool:

[02-Bravada-88]

Only for the 06+ w/MAF guys as they have a V8 PCM which can be adapted easily via software for the efans. You and I are still out of luck, but when my fan clutch dies I will find a way to get efans to work on my truck.

Can we program the efans to run off a separate computer?? :undecided

[ghoster]

Can we program the efans to run off a separate computer?? :undecided

Its not the getting them to work thats the problem. Its getting the PCM to not have a hissy fit because of the loss of its regular fan inputs.:cool:

[Saladbar]

Yes, the connector is the same.


The brackets should also work as they are pretty much the same. however no guarentees.. Prehaps you can try that for us? :)

gonna PM you ;)

[02-Bravada-88]

Its not the getting them to work thats the problem. Its getting the PCM to not have a hissy fit because of the loss of its regular fan inputs.:cool:

EFIlive?? Would that let you tinker around with it enough for it to ignore it? Because I remember people with Gen1 W-Bodies could swap in a Getrag M86 into their Grand Prix's and tinker with the PCM to get it to ignore the automatic that was once there.

[ghoster]

EFIlive?? Would that let you tinker around with it enough for it to ignore it? Because I remember people with Gen1 W-Bodies could swap in a Getrag M86 into their Grand Prix's and tinker with the PCM to get it to ignore the automatic that was once there.

Nope. Not so far. No way to get around it yet. Now lets end the :hijacked .

[ScarabEpic22]

As ghoster said, no cal in EFILive can turn the fan off. It is supposed to happen with the new 06+ programming though from what Ive heard though.

I have been toying with the idea of turning off all DTCs and MIL lights related to the fan clutch and seeing if I can at least get my truck to run. I know there are a few DTCs I need EFILive to make for me before that will work perfectly though. Once thats done, I think getting a PWM signal from the PCM should be easy (already one there for the mechanical clutch) and then use something like ADM Performance's adapter to get the fans to run properly.

Believe me, once I figure it out I will let you all know and/or start selling kits!:D

[Saladbar]

Hey Alvin.. Check your email please :)

[AlvinPCMforless]

Hi,

All my emails are answered up til about 8:30 am this morning. I'm working as hard as I can.. infact its 12am here and I've been working since 8.30. Should be in bed by 3 :)

[Saladbar]

Doh. I meant PM :)

I'll email you though :D

[Silvers]

how much for a complete kit?? fans harness and hardware??

[sslowered]

Take a look at the first post.

"We do not sale the fans at the moment. We just cannot offer the same deal that GM part wholesalers can. I may change that in the future. Here are a few of your options.

$275-$300 Buy the fans new from a GMparts wholesaler.
$50-$100 for a used set. Can be easily found on LS1tech.com, Ebay.com, Car-part.com, etc. I personally had a set left over from a Turbo Camaro. I'm doing another 07 soon and the owner has a procharged Trans Am so we are going to use them. Alot of people have these laying around."

I was able to get a set off Ebay yesterday for $96. So next week I will be giving them call. I think I will go all out and get a tune too.

[SS99]

So alvin, you mount the fans upside down with you setup? Also, I sent you a PM with a question earlier today.

Thanks

[AlvinPCMforless]

Nope they are mounted right side up. There is also a few places on Ebay that sell the complete fan setup used with our kits for around $170 new. So that means $170+$150+159 you can have a great tune, brand new fans and quality fan kit.

We sold another set to a local maggie charged 07 TBSS today.

[Silvers]

So is there only the ls1 fans that will fit the tbss?

[AlvinPCMforless]

Its what our brackets where made to fit with. You can use whatever you want but a LS1 fan drops in like it belongs there.

[Silvers]

Nice,as soon i will find ls1 efans i will order your harness.:)

[Saladbar]

Hey Alvin.. did you get my pm or email regarding the harness and fan calibrating?

[AlvinPCMforless]

Hey Alvin.. did you get my pm or email regarding the harness and fan calibrating?


Yeah, I did..

I'm kinda in a catch 22 on this. I worked really hard to come up with this to work with fill functionallity... Say for instance I can make the fans run for a given amount of time with the engine off etc. So I hate to just give the info away to your tuner however I don't want to say you can't get these because I'm not doing the tune.

Do you understand my position?

[Envoy Fan]

Yeah, I did..

I'm kinda in a catch 22 on this. I worked really hard to come up with this to work with fill functionallity... Say for instance I can make the fans run for a given amount of time with the engine off etc. So I hate to just give the info away to your tuner however I don't want to say you can't get these because I'm not doing the tune.

Do you understand my position?


Too bad this info can't be licensed or something. But once the info is out there it is gone. I understand your position. :worried:

[AlvinPCMforless]

Its a sticky situation.. I do have this to consider though, I doubt anyone is going to be able to make such a professional looking harness and easy to install fan bracket/mounting solution at the price we have set. Maybe what I should do is have 2 prices, one for our customers and one for other customers.. that way I get something for the R&D I put into them. I've heard of other guys getting it to work on the 06's, but nothing on the 07's yet and I'm not sure they doing it like I'm doing it.

I tried a different patch the otherday for track use.. The fans stay on 60 seconds after you leave the vehicle.. Helps with cooling in the staging lanes

[Envoy Fan]

The two tier pricing might work. Sounds like a win-win solution.

[Saladbar]

Yeah, I did..

I'm kinda in a catch 22 on this. I worked really hard to come up with this to work with fill functionallity... Say for instance I can make the fans run for a given amount of time with the engine off etc. So I hate to just give the info away to your tuner however I don't want to say you can't get these because I'm not doing the tune.

Do you understand my position?

Yup.. I understand. I've already bought a fan controller from summit along w/ the factory fan pigtails ~ I just liked how clean the harness you have is. :D Plus with the pcm controlling the fans, I can maybe use this controller for my tranny cooler! Haha... I'll do some checking on my end and will get back to you.

I do appreciate your honesty :yes:

[SS99]

Alvin is a good man to do business with, top notch!

[quadhauler]

Alvin, spoke to Kelly the other day and was telling her that I was finally about to get a tune for the TB. She answered most of my questions. As everyone, I hate the factory fan and want to kill several birds at once when I do this thing. She told me about the fan kit, but wasn't sure if it would fit the 5.3. So, will the SS fan kit fit my 04 EXT w/ 5.3?

[AlvinPCMforless]

Alvin, spoke to Kelly the other day and was telling her that I was finally about to get a tune for the TB. She answered most of my questions. As everyone, I hate the factory fan and want to kill several birds at once when I do this thing. She told me about the fan kit, but wasn't sure if it would fit the 5.3. So, will the SS fan kit fit my 04 EXT w/ 5.3?


I will actually have to look into that. I think I can atleast make a single speed edit to the PCM to allow these to work. IE both fans on or off.

Let me get back to you on that.



BTW.. We are sold out on these things. I will have some more ready for shipping Wednesday (Feb 7)

[SS99]

Alvin's harness looks absolutely professional, this is a is top-notch product.

[quadhauler]

I will actually have to look into that. I think I can atleast make a single speed edit to the PCM to allow these to work. IE both fans on or off.

Let me get back to you on that.



BTW.. We are sold out on these things. I will have some more ready for shipping Wednesday (Feb 7)

Don't forget me please Alvin. I haven't. :) I was thinking last night when I was driving it... geez this thing runs pretty good in certain spots... what it if ran even better EVERYWHERE! :D

[Spong]

:undecided :undecided :undecided :undecided :undecided

This is so damn tempting. :hissy: :hissy:

The internet is the devil! :D

[Envoy Fan]

:undecided :undecided :undecided :undecided :undecided

This is so damn tempting. :hissy: :hissy:

The internet is the devil! :D

Just do it. :yes:

[PediDr2]

This is so damn tempting. :hissy: :hissy:

The internet is the devil! :D
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/SunShinesfussfuss/waterboy3.jpg
You can do it!

[Spong]

LOL, all this help spending my money! :crazy:


What's the GM part# for the fans we need?

Thanks,
Steve

[SSinTn]

I emailed Alvin and do plan to purchase this. Both he and Bryan are great people to do business. Now, all I need is money. :drool

[AlvinPCMforless]

BUMP

Still going strong!

[ImpalaSSpeed96]

Man, I wish you guys offered a way to order them from the site. I know it sounds stupid but I've been wanting to order them for about 3 weeks now and with my work schedule its honestly been to much trouble to order them via phone. You think you could post ways to pay via the web, Alvin???

[AlvinPCMforless]

Man, I wish you guys offered a way to order them from the site. I know it sounds stupid but I've been wanting to order them for about 3 weeks now and with my work schedule its honestly been to much trouble to order them via phone. You think you could post ways to pay via the web, Alvin???

You can order it from the site! :)

Go to the regular trailblazer page:

http://www.pcmforless.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=47&Itemid=40

And scroll to the VERY bottom. There is a custom payment form. Enter in $159 and then "Fan Kit" in the subject line and you can pay that way.

Thanks,

Kelly

[ImpalaSSpeed96]

You can order it from the site! :)

Go to the regular trailblazer page:

http://www.pcmforless.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=47&Itemid=40

And scroll to the VERY bottom. There is a custom payment form. Enter in $159 and then "Fan Kit" in the subject line and you can pay that way.

Thanks,

Kelly


Great Kelly! Ill be on it tonight!