4.2 Wait4Me Tune

[03TBLT]

Anyone hear if Jesse is ready to release a TUNE for the 4.2L?
I've heard he has about 40 test vehicles with the 4.2L doing R&D.
Ichin' for the PCM update:)

[ATV PRO]

I was actually going to call him this week to see about the 05 4.2. I think that he had something done for the earlier (02,03) models of the 4.2 but I am not 100% certain. I spoke with him about a month ago and he said to give him about a month to a month and a half and try him again. I will toward the end of the week.

[03TBLT]

I have an 03. Please let me/us know! THANKS

[Motives]

Got an email from Jesse yesterday about the tune and he said they will not be ready for about another month. The price was $158.05 without a core exchange and $75 plus shipping for a PCM shipped to him for reprograming. Can't wait till they are ready. I am willing to spend the 158.05 to try it out. Plus free upgrades for life! Nice! :thumbsup:

[dtu]

what would be the difference between this and the westers. the $$? or better?

[03TBLT]

Differences in TUNE, I'll let you know as soon as I get the WAIT4ME. I already had a Westers TUNE done for a 99 Jimmy, so I'll be able to do a comparison. My thoughts are that there has got to be a cheaper TUNE.
Westers wants $595 for my 03 TBLT and W4M only wants $75, if I send in the PCM.
PLEASE let me/us know if you hear anything about a release date. I hope this isn't like a sign in the bar that says, "Free beer tomorrow":laugh:

[Bulldog]

INTERESTING, please keep the inquiring minds informed of W4M. The price sounds right, just need to see your thoughts of the performance.

[jimmyjam]

I don't know how they can offer any customer support for $75. I wouldn't even pick up the phone for that much money.

[tblazed]

hmm.. some "sour grapes" from a Wester's owner perhaps?? The low price just tells me that there isn't as much to programming a PCM as some might lead others to believe.

[jimmyjam]

if it a)ever materializes and they can b) give any sort of post-purchase support, I'll freely admit that its a better deal. right now its vaporware.
"If it sounds too good to be true..."

I hope it happens but I don't see how its financially feasable. hope they prove me wrong, i'd love to see some competition.

[AndrewB]

The message below was what I got from Jesse on 1-29-06 about a tune for my 02 TB 4.2. Now I'm not sure if it's because of the things I metioned I was going to add, but I don't think a CAI and exhaust would effect a tune that much.


AndrewB <xxx@xxx.net> wrote:Dear Wait4MePerformance,

I'm interested in your tune for my 02 TB. My main concern is gas mileage.
I plan on adding a K&N cold air intake system and a JBA exhaust system. Can
you send me some information about your tuning services for my truck?

Thanks,
Andrew

From: jesse bubb [mailto:jessebubb@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 8:38 PM
To: AndrewB
Subject: Re: 2002 Chevrolet Trailblazer 4.2



Dear Andrew,
Our software doesn't support the tuning for your vehicle. We have tried and it just acts really weird. Sorry. Please check back with us later in the year and hopefully we will have this issue resolved.
Thank you

[FattyTBEXT]

I got a very similar email from Hanna when I emailed them a couple weeks ago. :m2:

[tblazed]

so is he given you the tune for cost at 75? arent you a little worried ?
Not if it's proven in other TBs, which it would be by the time I bought one. This guy seems to have a good following, and is reasonable, so I wait. No biggie.

[03TBLT]

TBLAZED- What do you mean about "sour grapes??" I have the utmost respect for Lyndon Westers and what he can do for a PCM. I merely stated that there has to be a more inexpensive way to do a PCM. After searching various forums, I came across WAIT4ME TUNE. Jesse has quite a following on the Chevy fullsize forum. I have now spoken to him personally and he has confirmed that he has about 40 test vehicles running a 4.2L TUNE and he ironing out the final details on tables, core exchanges and costs. He hopes to have this ready within a months time. The reason I'm interested in the W4M TUNE is the cost, Tow/Haul ass mode, and MPG increases. I also like the fact he questioned why I would want to add a CAI, TBS, exhaust or any other common bolt-ons. When I questioned his price he told me that he's rather do a bunch at $75, then charge 8 X's the amount and do far fewer. I like an honest answer to an honest question, and I did pick his brain. I'll do a Westers/W4M comparison when I can and share the findings. If the Westers is superior, then I'll shell out the $$ to upgrade my TB.

[troop]

Who is this Jesse and where do I link up to get some info ? Looking for something for my 03 5.3L.. Troop

[FattyTBEXT]

PM for ya, Troop.

I also like the fact he questioned why I would want to add a CAI, TBS, exhaust or any other common bolt-ons.

Was he just looking for your reasoning or doesn't he think they do much? :confused:

[tblazed]

TBLAZED- What do you mean about "sour grapes??"

03TBLT-Didn't know you owned a Wester's 4.2 I6 Tune. Re-read messages #9 and 10. ;)


I also like the fact he questioned why I would want to add a CAI, TBS, exhaust or any other common bolt-ons.

I think we are basically on the same page on this. I like the fact that Jesse hasn't allowed or made any over optimistic gas mileage boost claims of 4 to 5 mpg :rolleyes: while at the same time making more power as was stated in the first posts about the $575 tune. Have yet to read anyone showing a substantial rear wheel HP gain while at the same time getting an honest 18 city, 27 highway.

[tbmdsd]

Well let's think about it. Once they know what they need to do for a tune on your PCM and have tested it what the he11 really costs 600.00 dollars?? To push some buttons on a computer etc..? I would like to get a Westers but 600 beans seems steep. In the beginning there was definitly time and money spent on figuring it out the tune but then prices should come down. It's like DVD players, they were expensive in the beginning but now you can get one for 50.00 I am waiting to see if prices come down or a competitor beats their price.

[jimmyjam]

It's like DVD players, they were expensive in the beginning but now you can get one for 50.00Guys, I think the thing you are missing is that you're not going to sell thousands of them like you do with DVD players. there is a very limited market. Say dude sells 100 of these $75 tunes. (is it an '02 tune? '03 tune? seperate R&D efforts and testing for each rev) thats $7.5G, lets say half of that goes to paying overhead, rent, electricity, leaves almost $4G, thats maybe 2 man-months at a pretty low salary. keep in mind that those 2 man months are not only spent r&d and testing, but also packing, shipping, billing, and worst of all tech support. it just doesn't make buisness sense. I dunno man, I can't say I trust a company thats workign for peanuts. but I'd like to hear your results when you get the tune in. next year sometime?

[deathbynosleep]

maybe the guy just does it on the side...so he can offer them cheap.

[03TBLT]

I got this off of a net search on (WAIT4ME). This info. got me thinking and has lead me to contact Jesse. I hope this answers any questions you might have

wait4me
06-10-2005, 05:12 PM
Hi everyone, Thank you for all the welcome comments and the huge volume of perfect feedback from the tunes i have set up from people all over the internet. For the people that dont know who i am, My Name is Jesse Bubb, I go by the name of Wait4me on any board you will see that is associated with vehicles of some sort :) The name actually started out as a joke with my friends about 5 years ago. I had a camaro that had a huge nitrous shot on it, "300+" and everyone would beat me till i used the nitrous, so we would joke around and say, Fast as fast can be.... When i hit the juice, youll say... WAIT4ME!!!!!
And the name just stuck. LOL
Anyways, From 16years old up, ive owned about 26 camaros in total. None of them being stock before selling them or trading them for another camaro. So, back then haveing a stock computer control a big motor was damn near impossible. So, i always had to use an aftermarket setup.. At the time, there was not much support for anyone using those aftermarket computer systems, so you where pretty much forced to learn it all from scratch and hope that all went well.
From there, i learned very quickly the ins and outs of the different programs out there and just started buying anything that ever came out as soon as it was released, and kept learning more and more and more about the fuel injection side of things, How a computer works internally, what sensors do and why, and what they need to be doing, ect.. Back then, the computers where not as advanced as they are now.. Heck, now the factory computer is better than ANY aftermarket fuel managment system.
Anyways, Back to the story,lol, I was messing around with a very large amount of l98 tuned port injection motors, and started doing a very large amount of custom tuning via hex edditing and flashing the cal proms manually,, then in 92 when the lt1 was released, i thought that was the best thing in the world. So started getting into that. By 94 i had several tables figured out, and how to flash and edit the two split flash chips, Well all was well, then in 1997 gm put out the all mighty LS1!! It was ahead of its time, they switched to a computer that was superior to any of the computers out. It used a totally different flash chip and the layout of the bins where now getting more organized. Easier to edit and find tables, In 1999 a software called ls1edit came out and then it made all our lives so much easier, Now we didnt have to dissasemble the pcms anymore to flash the chips, we could do it thru the serial data port now. :)
Anyways, So from 99 up i started learning all there was to know about the ls1 platform, And started offering free training and answered any question i could on how to tune the ls1 based platforms for anyone that needed it.
And that is where it has progressed to today.
I tune about 10 vehicles a day sometimes more., and try to complete 7 wire harnesses a week and then that dont even include what the shop does.. I try to keep all that seperate because i would really really fall behind if i had all that reponsibility. lol. Also, My feedback is always 100% good, I strive to make EVERYONE happy, As customer satisfaction is my number 1 priority, As everyone who has ever delt with me would see.

I really do appriciate everyone who is my customer, that is why i reward everyone with the Extreamly high quality tunes at an Unbelievable Price.

My price structure is very simple,
$75.00 for a CUSTOM made from scratch Tune for your vehicle, if you send in your original pcm for me to modify, then i ship it back out the same day to you.
OR
$150 if you want a spare computer fully programmed with no spare.

Both come with FREE Upgrades FOR LIFE!

And shipping is always only 7.70 for 2 day priority.

I can do anything and everything that you guys request.
If you dont have any ideas, normally my base tunes are great for anyone.
And besides, if there is anything you would ever like to change, it is free. :)

You guys can call or email me, but calling is easier, i get 400 emails a day, so it gets really easy to fall behind, so it would be faster if you called,
the business line is
574-267-3630 and i can normally be reached from 10:00am to 8pm

If you know what you want and dont have any questions, you can just pay straight to paypal and send the funds to hannahbubb@yahoo.com
In the notes section just give all the information you have and a vin number and you are set to go. I try to get the orders out the same day. :) Thanks again guys, Any questions please ask.

[troop]

"Software issues. Can't tune your Trailblazer at this time. Please check back later". This was reply for my 03 5.8L TB... Troop

[tbmdsd]

Sounds legit but who has one and can verify it?

[Bulldog]

I just received an E-Mail back from Jesse and this is his reply:

We are currently not tuning any PCMs for any Tailblazers at this time. We are having some software issues. Please check back at a later time to see if this problem has been resolved. Thank you for your interest in Wait 4 Me.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Wait4me]

Hi guys, I will sign up for sponsorship the day i have the tunes Ready for you.. The hold up was me waiting for Some awsome programming software to be released by efilive. I didnt want to hurt the tuning market by releasing my tunes first. Check out the software and your vehicles will be covered soon. Thanks guys, Jes

[Bulldog]

When it is ready, send me notice and be ready to ship one out. Mine!:thumbsup:

[02blaze]

I've heard that software to reprogram the 4.2L PCM will be available soon. It's supposed to be coming from a company named EFI Live. Does anyone know anything about them. I have some friends with Corvettes who say the stuff is killer, but I'm wondering if that will apply to the I6 stuff.

[MN C5]

I'm using it now for my Turbo SilveradoSS and can't wait to try it out on my I6. Everyone will have the choice of buying a tune or doing it yourself. I've be following the turbo build by Trav4011, might have to give it a go myself..

[02blaze]

I've be following the turbo build by Trav4011, might have to give it a go myself..
I didn't think Democrats were alowed to use turbochargers.

[ltz03]

software issues thats (from what i hear ) is not done inhouse, personally I would go with westers he has a very good rep he tunes tons of cars and trucks yes its expensive but so is your truck!!! I know its tough to give up almost $600 but its so worth it

not trying to down wait4me at all i'm sure the guys do ok with tunes.
you can call lyndon anytime and he WILL talk to you and answer any questions you are also tuned for life which means any motor he tunes you will not have to pay only if it is a higher price, but just the difference, but i' m just saying my:m2:

[MN C5]

I didn't think Democrats were alowed to use turbochargers.

Both parties have plenty of Hot Air and the blow hards that go with it.:m2:

I don't think you could go wrong with either a Westers or Wait4me tune. Faster is always better.

[02blaze]

Both parties have plenty of Hot Air and the blow hards that go with it.:m2:

I don't think you could go wrong with either a Westers or Wait4me tune. Faster is always better.

:iagree: And I'm impressed that as a former Democrat, you can speak like a true Republican.

[timc3]

I'm using it now for my Turbo SilveradoSS and can't wait to try it out on my I6. Everyone will have the choice of buying a tune or doing it yourself. I've be following the turbo build by Trav4011, might have to give it a go myself..
So that's what you're doing over in this neck of the woods! I jumped when I saw your name..

For those of you who don't know, MN C5 has a BAD @$$ SilveradoSS.. with a 408 CI w/ rear mount turbo, and lots of other mods.. sheesh. Must be rough! :thumbsup:

Back on topic, I'm definitely looking into some tuning for the wifes Envoy. I will keep up with this thread, because
A) it's rough shelling out 500-600 bucks on a single tune (even with "free" upgrades), and
B) I've really wanting to get into this whole tuning scene. I'm always wanting to learn! :undecided

[blandmiller]

I don't think EFILive will be releasing any tuners for the I6. All of you with the V8 might have good luck though.

[tblazed]

EFI Live sent me positive response and a screen shot of the upcoming LL8 (I-6) tuning software - looks to me like they are serious about it.

http://users3.ev1.net/~epadget/tbtunesm.jpg

[blandmiller]

Everyone should be letting EFILive know we are out here. They have one of the best LS1/LS6 tuning programs in the marketplace. The cost will be most likely higher than the Wester's tunes and only be usable on a single VIN, but well worth the money!!!!

[Flashscan]

Hi Guys,

Yes IL6 (LL8) is coming along very well, tuning will be a reality very soon.

For those that don't know us we started out doing just LS1 programming about 2 years ago, just 5 or 6 months back we announced Beta testing for the Duramax, well today we are the only company offering tuning for both the Duramax and Allison transmission......in others words, we don't announce something is in the works in 2004 and never get it done.....please keep an eye on our IL6/5/4 tuning, it will happen!!.

We don't sponsor here (yet), but have made the appropriate contact to do so. I don't want to over step the mark on advertising the product without permission, just Google EFILive and you should find the website no problem.

Cheers,
Ross

[TBK]

Hi Guys,

Yes IL6 (LL8) is coming along very well, tuning will be a reality very soon.

For those that don't know us we started out doing just LS1 programming about 2 years ago, just 5 or 6 months back we announced Beta testing for the Duramax, well today we are the only company offering tuning for both the Duramax and Allison transmission......in others words, we don't announce something is in the works in 2004 and never get it done.....please keep an eye on our IL6/5/4 tuning, it will happen!!.

We don't sponsor here (yet), but have made the appropriate contact to do so. I don't want to over step the mark on advertising the product without permission, just Google EFILive and you should find the website no problem.

Cheers,
Ross
I am getting impatient, why is it that there is no answer for those of us that have the money for a good tune and no one is listening.
:duh:

[Envoy Fan]

I am getting impatient, why is it that there is no answer for those of us that have the money for a good tune and no one is listening.
:duh:

Wester's listened. I think a lot of who gets the tune is demand. If not enough of a certain engine ask for it, it doesn't get done. Also the amount of difficulty is in the equation.

[Black02SS]

I am getting impatient, why is it that there is no answer for those of us that have the money for a good tune and no one is listening.
:duh:
They are listening, it just takes time. Wait4me does a good service and will be able to take care of guys when the support is available. The guys at EFILive strive to get the best product out to the customers and if that means it takes a little extra time to ensure it is right, then that is what they do.

[iDontKnow]

Welcome to the world of product development! :crazy:

[dirthopn1]

:) I spoke with Jesse this evening and the I6 is still about 2 weeks out. He sounds like he knows his business and is very busy but he did take some time to give me the lodown on both my current Jet stage 2 and his tunes. The main selling point for me came from the fact that he stated he can disable the "service engine soon" that I have been dealing with since upgrading to a duel electric fans from Flexfan, for me I would pay $75 just for that .....the great tune would be the iceing on the cake. I will let you know when he gets back to me and is ready his shop is within a couple hours of me so I will be able to pick his brain while I'm there.

[EnvoyXL]

Wow, its getting closer, in the past it was alway a month away.

[EFI Support]

For those of you that don't know, Jesse uses EFILive to do his custom tunes and is an authorised reseller of our product. He has been very instrumental in testing our product and enhancing our list of features over the last two years. He is certainly one guy who pushes the envelope.

He offers fantastic levels of customer service to ensure custom tuned PCM's are what the customer needs/wants, and also offers great support to customers that want to learn how to do it themselves.

Cheers

[03TBLT]

I've been told we're about a week away as of Monday:D

[Motives]

I can't wait! Thanks for the update! I keep checking back to see if there are any changes.:thumbsup:

[z-ya]

Jesse won't do any of our tunes until the efi live software comes out.His
previous method of tuning our trucks took to much time,so it wasn't worth
it for him.This is what he told me when he did a baseline tune for my ls1.

[EFI Support]

Jesse won't do any of our tunes until the efi live software comes out.His
previous method of tuning our trucks took to much time,so it wasn't worth
it for him.This is what he told me when he did a baseline tune for my ls1.

Well thats almost right. As one of our Beta testers he has access to the software before everyone else......

[TBK]

Jesse won't do any of our tunes until the efi live software comes out.His
previous method of tuning our trucks took to much time,so it wasn't worth
it for him.This is what he told me when he did a baseline tune for my ls1. Will this new tune be comparable to Wester's tune. And at what price point or ball park if you will.

[EnvoyXL]

Will this new tune be comparable to Wester's tune. And at what price point or ball park if you will. Read the posts in this thread to find the answers to your questions.

[EFI Support]

Will this new tune be comparable to Wester's tune. And at what price point or ball park if you will.

I can't speak for Jesse and his plans, but I will say 2 things.

If you search on wait4me on other sites check out the feedback he gets on all other tuning he does, I sure you won't be disappointed.

Secondly, EFILive doesn't sell tunes, we sell software.....so if you purchase our product, then the tune is as good as the user. Help files are great, dedicated sub-forum for helping/sharing information, dedicated site (check my sig), ability to share tunes....the possibilities are endless.

Cheers

[EnvoyXL]

So I am guessing what Jesse does is buy the EFI Live program for unlimited TB or Envoys once it comes out, and then he tunes your truck and gets his money back after he tunes 6 or 7 and the rest is all money in his pocket. If this is correct then that explains how he can do the tune so cheap. This way he will make more money buy do lots of tunes than just a few tunes for a ton of money. As much experience as he has, he can probably tune pretty fast. I know I will be one of the first in line once he gets his tunes going on the I6. $75 is a great price for a tune especially considering he is using EFI.

[FattyTBEXT]

So I am guessing what Jesse does is buy the EFI Live program for unlimited TB or Envoys once it comes out, and then he tunes your truck and gets his money back after he tunes 6 or 7 and the rest is all money in his pocket. If this is correct then that explains how he can do the tune so cheap. This way he will make more money buy do lots of tunes than just a few tunes for a ton of money. As much experience as he has, he can probably tune pretty fast. I know I will be one of the first in line once he gets his tunes going on the I6. $75 is a great price for a tune especially considering he is using EFI.

I'm right behind you in line, bro. :yes:

[jimmyjam]

So I am guessing what Jesse does is buy the EFI Live program for unlimited TB or Envoys once it comes out, and then he tunes your truck and gets his money back after he tunes 6 or 7 and the rest is all money in his pocket. um.. yeah espeically after you said this on a forum monitored by EFI Live salespeople?!?!

[tblazed]

As I read it, the full unlimited version for doing high volume tunes costs almost $7,000.

From the EFILive web site http://www.efilive.com/c-15-products.aspx

Flashscan Workshop

EFILive’s top of the range Scan and Tuning Tool has exactly the same feature set as the Commercial option and offers unlimited vehicle tuning of all supported vehicles.

The Workshop option is designed for high volume workshops or anyone that expects to tune large numbers of vehicles.



Flashscan Workshop
Product Code: FS-W
$6,980.00

[EnvoyXL]

um.. yeah espeically after you said this on a forum monitored by EFI Live salespeople?!?!

What is wrong with that?

[jimmyjam]

What is wrong with that?
you just said he is going to get the full featured package and return it after he makes $$$ selling tunes. AKA rip off EFI live. its called "ETHICS".

I still don't understand the buisness model driving the $75 tune, but I am sure someone of this jesse's guy standing wouldn't stoop to such unethical behavior. its one thing for a consumer to rip off bestbuy but when you are basing a buisness off of this sort of thing you're risking severe repercussions.

[EnvoyXL]

No, what I was saying is that after 6 or 7 tunes he gets his money back by charging for the tunes. 6 tunes would be $450 7 tunes would be $525 if he charged $75 for the tune. That should cover the cost he pays for unlimted tunes for a particular model. I wasnt saying he was going to return it.

[jimmyjam]

ya guess i didnt catch your drift since the shop license costs $7large, at $75 a pop thats 93 tunes to break even. i've already spelled out the economics in another thread, $75 a tune seems like a fairytale. i'd love to be wrong about this.

[EnvoyXL]

I didnt realize the shop license was that expensive. Is that $7K for all vehicles, or just unlimited for the I6?

[Flashscan]

We find that some consumers just want a tuned PCM, we sell a tuning package to professional tuners (like Jesse) so they can service that part of the market. Our package covers all models we support - no boundaries. So for Jesse's $7K he can tune unlimited Duramax, Allision Transmissions, LS1's and soon LL8's...oh yeah and LS2 when we release our new hardware.

We find that some consumers like to DIY and learn about their truck, change annoying things like tire sizes, and then make it drive how they want it to. We sell a package tailored to this part of the market. If you want to tune more than one vehicle, it's a flat $99 for an additional license for any supported vehicle.

We also find a bunch of guys buy a tuned ECM and decide hey this is fun.....I want to play some more, then purchase our product. If they purchased their tune from Jesse, chances are they will purchase EFILive via him too. He is one of our resellers.

Cheers,
Ross

[deathbynosleep]

As much as would like the handheld, it's way out of my price range. But once jesse gets things rolling i'm def. going to be down for a new PCM.

[blandmiller]

I follow jimmyjams reasoning, but he is not taking all of the information into consideration. :no:

The $7000 workshop license allows the owner to tune as many VINs as he wants and it covers all of the current GM operating systems that are available.

It is not 93 tunes for the Trailvoy's to justify the cost, it is justified by the number of tunes he has done since the software became available. There are alot of LS1/LS6 powered vehicles with generic and custom tunes out there.

If he has stated $75 for a tune, I would believe him. :m2:

[Motives]

Any updates on release time?:confused:

[03TBLT]

I spoke to Jesse on Monday and he hoped that Wed., April 12th, would be the release date. This has been the US Army's "SOP" of hurry up and wait. I know this frustrates people, but good things come to those that wait. He will NOT release a product until it's ready. I hope the "wait" will be well worth it and I'm very confident it will be! As for the nay-sayers, only time will tell.

[nathnn99]

I'm wondering if the tune is ready and what are the performance/MPG gains of the tune.

[EnvoyXL]

I am thinking that if the tune was ready then he probably would have released it already. I doubt he wants to make people wait any longer than they already have. The longer it takes him, the more sales he loses. I am sure he will release it as soon as he possibly can, but from what I have read Jesse is a perfectionist and isnt going to release something that is halfassed. I dont mind waiting a little longer considering the cost of his tune to others.

[ScarabEpic22]

Yes, from what I have heard, Jesse is a great guy and will release the tune when he has it perfected.


Unfortunately, for me I couldnt wait, so I have another tuning deal in progress...:undecided

[FattyTBEXT]

Unfortunately, for me I couldnt wait, so I have another tuning deal in progress...:undecided

Well don't leave us hangin, maaaaaaaaan. :undecided

[Prey521]

Depending on how my third installment of the Westers tune, I may be lookin in the Wait4Me direction LOL

[EnvoyXL]

Well don't leave us hangin, maaaaaaaaan. :undecided

I am guessing he is working with EFI live. If he is, he has a confidentiality agreement and wont tell you anyways.

[deathbynosleep]

are we still going to try to work out a group buy when it's available? even though 75 bucks is already a pretty good deal even if we can't.

[Bulldog]

I am trying REAL hard to be patient. I know I am in line and on the list Jesse has somewhere.:grouphug:

[Trailblazin]

does this $75 include sending out a PCM kinda like what Westers core exchange??? If it does PLZ let me know! from $500+ to $75 for near enough the same thing, I think i know what I'm gonna be doing now...

[FattyTBEXT]

It's about $75 if you send him your PCM and $157.50 for him to send you a tuned PCM if you wanna keep your stock one (like I will).

[Trailblazin]

It's about $75 if you send him your PCM and $157.50 for him to send you a tuned PCM if you wanna keep your stock one (like I will).

looool then why does westers charge us $150 for a core?? do you guys think the wait4me tune would come out with something stronger then the Westers?? as in a 93Hot tune, with firm shifts, noooo mileage whatsoever and a full on performance tune!?

[jimmyjam]

looool then why does westers charge us $150 for a core?? because thats how much they cost. actually they are around $150 with a $100 core charge so really around $250 if you're not returning it. brand new that is. but i guess jesse can do some magical things, hell, if he can produce a tune that he's tested on 40 vehicles for months and months and only charge $75 for it, i'm sure finding a fantastic deal on ECMs is within the realm of possibilities. as a matter of fact that magical tune should be released today, right?

[FattyTBEXT]

When I asked Jesse about the release date, here's the reply I got:

"Hi, We are working as fast as we can to set them up. The software will be available shortly. Thanks, Jes"

I'm in no hurry, really. I really want one, but I'm in the middle of a few other mods as well. That being said, I'll be one of the first to send Jesse my money when the tune is released. ;)

[mjd932]

When I asked Jesse about the release date, here's the reply I got:

"Hi, We are working as fast as we can to set them up. The software will be available shortly. Thanks, Jes"

I'm in no hurry, really. I really want one, but I'm in the middle of a few other mods as well. That being said, I'll be one of the first to send Jesse my money when the tune is released. ;)

And as soon as you do, I'll start driving south to see how you like it and then order my own :)

[EnvoyXL]

I talked to Jesse today and once again it is still a week away. He is supposed to email me with all the prices for tune, core shipping etc...

[SSGUIDO]

I have W4Me on my GMC and boy the tune is great, The tow button mode was converted into the Haul s$$ button mode. More agressive shift points and rev limiters. Things dont have to be expensive to be good.
His customer service is good and I talked to him on the phone when I needed to. If some of you guys want to pay $500 or more for a tune, thats your choice. Me I paid $157 (got an extra PCM) And got a great tune :yes:
I would have him do my SS if he did them. For you guys that dont think someone can do a great tune for $75 check out some other gm truck forums. Just my :m2:

[North40]

Sounds too good to be true but for the price, I'll be ordering one myself. :yes:

[RED 5]

Sounds too good to be true but for the price, I'll be ordering one myself. :yes:

Thats what I thought as well, but check out the great feedback his product and support gets on other auto forums.

I will be ordering one.

[lilchoke]

how long for the 4.2 I6 tune??????????????????????????

[RED 5]

and the answer is, NEXT WEEK! thats been the case for like 4 weeks now.

[bbrase]

Any updates?

[Bulldog]

I called yesterday and spoke to Hanna; she checked with Jesse and it is not ready. They stated that a message will be posted on this TrailVoy forum when it is ready. As said in the military, HURRY UP AND WAIT.

[Mr. Furley]

I'd rather have a dyno tune.

[RED 5]

I gave them my weekly call as well.

I thought that the software is already available from EFI??

[dieknow]

The software is not ready yet.

I gave them my weekly call as well.

I thought that the software is already available from EFI??

[ghoster]

hurry up and wait.:x

[deathbynosleep]

any updates???

[FattyTBEXT]

I just want someone to release a low-cost mail order tune, so I'm waiting on Wait4Me (no pun intended) to get this done. I have a lot of respect for Westers and HP Tuners as well. I need this to be a low-cost mod since I have so many other mods in the hopper. :duh:

[EnvoyXL]

Here is the latest worthless email response.


Jay,
Yes we will be able to tune these one day.... soon hopefully :)

Hannah

[Prey521]

Ya, I know the Westers was up there in price, and there were some issues at the beginning, but I am beyond happy with it, and I just got the baseline tune. Now, since the wife and I carpool and the TB gets driven less, I am going to go with the 93 Hot Tune :D

[juventus1983]

WTF seriously not cool

[jimmyjam]

I hate to tell you that I told you so...

..no I don't

http://wfmh.org.pl/projects/vapor/images/vapor.gif
i could never get away with giving empty promises in my buisness.. this is ridiculous.

I have now spoken to him personally and he has confirmed that he has about 40 test vehicles running a 4.2L TUNE and he ironing out the final details on tables, core exchanges and costs.
I knew that was bs when I read it. 40 test vehicles yeah right

[ylab]

Spare PCM $60
Wait4Me Tune $150
Wester's group buy $400

The feeling of driving your fully tuned baby with Wester's while others sit and wait....priceless! :woohoo:

Sorry guys, just couldn't resist! :yes:

[ScarabEpic22]

Actually Jimmy, he does have 40 trucks running around with it. (Not me though)

EFILive is still in the beta process and he cant start selling tunes until it is publically released to the general public for the I6. We are still working out the bugs of tuning these trucks, but I know we have a really fat rich condition under WOT that is much better when tuned.

Im going to start tuning tomorrow afternoon!:D

[03TBLT]

I made my weekly call to Jesse on Monday and was told they're still waiting on EFILive. I sent them(EFI) an email, via W4M encouragement and I got an immediate reply from Ross @ EFI stating that his software has been released a few weeks ago. He's not sure of the holdup on Jesse's end. I'm not sure what Beta Testing is, but is that the holdup??

[2004AscenderEXT]

Yes it is rich at WOT.

AFR = 10.5 @ 46'F (10.5@46'F)
11.0 @ 68'F (11.0@68'F)
11.0 @ 90'F
11.5 @ 133'F
12.0 @ 176'F & greater

With my HPTuner software I set AFR = 12.8 @ 68'F & greater,
and increased all the colder temps AFR leaner by 1.0

My 4.2L loves all the changes that I have made, with no issues
at all.
Nice smooth power & better throttle response.

Dave

[2004AscenderEXT]

Hmm, this is dated 5/12/06
It looks like the real deal was released 2 weeks ago.
So Beta testing has to be done...:confused:


Quote:
EFILive is pleased to announce that V7.3.2 software is now available as a full 80Mb download or in multiple parts. We will soon be providing a much smaller download missing allot of the .cal files for those wanting to look at the software but have trouble downloading the 80Mb worth of files.
This will update the software to -
Tune V7.3.2 build 456
Scan V7.3.2 build 412

It is highly recommended all EFILive users upgrade to this version from previous V7.3.1 (or earlier) software.

The new standout features above V7.3.1 are as follows -

Programming & Locking of Allison TCMs
Display of Allison TAP cells in the Scantool
Allison bi-directional controls (lock gears etc)
DSP² tun and cal files for the Duramax switchable tune
Real-time data-linking with Tuning Tool for use with RoadRunner ECMs
Scantool enhancements when using DMA PID's with the Duramax
Programming support for the 4.2L IL6 (Trailblazer / Envoy)
Various programming safety enhancements
ECM Oil life reset option

End of Quote:


New Quote:

When will Jesse be able to release this software via "TUNES??"
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I guess thats a question for Jesse.

Our software is available for public release. We have a number of customers who are sucessfully tuning the I6, and a range of Beta testers who are pushing the envelope so to speak in asking for additional tuning parameters. We are in the process of meeting these requests.

[blandmiller]

Are you verifying the AFRs with a wideband or just changing the PE tables? I am seeing even richer conditions than the commanded values at WOT. I am very suspect of the factory VE tables.

[2004AscenderEXT]

I'm just changing 'table-values' right now.
In the 'PE' tables I'm changing "BASE AFR vs ECT"

That's good to know that you found the 4.2L to be 'richer'.
Once I'm at a point that I'm done with my 'raw' changes,
I'll have a 'bung' welded into the exhaust, & take the WB out of my
Z28 & get 'serious' with the 'fine' tuning.

Thanks for the info..:thumbsup:

Dave

[blandmiller]

Have you changed any of the PE bypass parameters? They stay in closed loop way too long for my taste. PE and VVT do not occur on the Dyno until ~4800 Rpm. It comes in a little sooner on the street, but never before 4100 Rpm.

[PSM207]

Do any of the tuning packages give the ability to change the stored mileage data (odometer)?

[ylab]

Do any of the tuning packages give the ability to change the stored mileage data (odometer)?

That information is contained in the instrument cluster and not the PCM, however the PCM also has a counter of sorts for mileage. Changing that information would also be highly illegal.

[Flashscan]

Guys,

Last week I spent a few days with Jesse (Wait4me) and had a chance to drive he's 4.2L Trailblazer. First off I spent about 20mins driving with the stock tune just to get a feel for how it drove.
Then Jesse flashed in he's tune that he has been working on and it really was quite an amazing difference. So much more responsive, the trans actually knew what it was doing and shifted real sharp.
No before and after dyno figures but even if it was only 1Hp (which I am sure it isn't) the seat of the pants transformation would make the number insignificant.
Jesse just wants to finish off doing some more trans shifting tweaking and then he will be ready to start shipping he's exchange PCM's, trust me he has a bunch ready to go.
He also hinted he may offer this tune to everyone who purchases EFILive though him as a starter tune.

Cheers,
Ross

[ScarabEpic22]

Guys,

Last week I spent a few days with Jesse (Wait4me) and had a chance to drive he's 4.2L Trailblazer. First off I spent about 20mins driving with the stock tune just to get a feel for how it drove.
Then Jesse flashed in he's tune that he has been working on and it really was quite an amazing difference. So much more responsive, the trans actually knew what it was doing and shifted real sharp.
No before and after dyno figures but even if it was only 1Hp (which I am sure it isn't) the seat of the pants transformation would make the number insignificant.
Jesse just wants to finish off doing some more trans shifting tweaking and then he will be ready to start shipping he's exchange PCM's, trust me he has a bunch ready to go.
He also hinted he may offer this tune to everyone who purchases EFILive though him as a starter tune.

Cheers,
Ross

Dang, I wonder if he would be willing to just sell me the tune for like 50 bucks as I already have EFILive. I want a pre done one so I dont have to mess with a wideband o2 and A/F ratios. The trans stuff is much simplier, but A/F scares me a little as this is the first car I have tuned before.:o

[EnvoyXL]

Is this just another teaser, or is he ever gonna release this thing? Just give us a date already.

[Bulldog]

Is this just another teaser, or is he ever gonna release this thing? Just give us a date already.
:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

[ENVOY2LOW43]

I am patiently waiting for this tune, when it comes out I just wish that my wait would be worth it. Right now I will try not to think about it, I just dont want to get my hopes real high.

[EFI Support]

You don't go out and buy a Trailblazer as a teaser.......or do you?? :crazy:

I guess the tune will take as long as it takes. He has gone out and purchased a "development vehicle" and has done some extensive testing thus far. I'm sure you won't want to buy a tune just because you "want it now" when it isn't finished, and I know that Jesse wouldn't sell you a tune he was not happy with.

Plus I imagine he wants to develop tunes to suit all fuel types and specific mods. The testing Jesse and Ross did last week was with running 93 octane, but with gas prices these days maybe not everyone wants to run 93.

As I said before the software has only been available for a short period of time. Jesse has already been asking for more parameters to make his tunes perfect based on his findings to date. So while I'm not in a position to give a concrete date for availability of his tune, I can confirm that the wait4me tune development cycle is in full swing, and there are a bunch of PCM's sitting in his workshop waiting to be programmed in anticipation of it's release.