S/D brake upgrade

[Whattydo]

Anyone upgrade to slotted and drilled rotors? If so what brand, how much, and where from? I found 2 front and 2 rear Brembo S/D for 249+35 s&h. Not sure whether or not to get them or not. Definately will upgrade soon, any suggestions advice?, thanks in advance......
J-G

[jimmyjam]

i got some d&s rotors from r1 concepts on ebay.. i have nightmares about them cracking though. I think i'd prefer just slotted. they'd probably perform better with out being drilled. they look cool though.

[goes211]

If you do a Trailvoy site search, you'll find a wealth of info on this topic...I promise.

[ltz03]

I would go with the brembos they are a top brand company personaly I beleive you get what you pay for they are your brakes and you don't want any problems with cracking or or warping, saftey is important. It would be a good idea to get some good brake pads too, I just did brembos on my friends tb with some ebc green stuff pads he stops a hell of a lot better then mine does especially if you have bigger wheels like 20'' or 22'' they are heaver then stock and need a little more grip to stop and will have less fade and they dont leave all that dust on you wheels. when mine need changing thats what im going with.

[TB Lover]

Anyone upgrade to slotted and drilled rotors? If so what brand, how much, and where from? I found 2 front and 2 rear Brembo S/D for 249+35 s&h. Not sure whether or not to get them or not. Definately will upgrade soon, any suggestions advice?, thanks in advance......
J-G
What are you looking at doing? If you're going for looks, then go for the drilled/slotted rotors. These will not improve your braking performance.

If you're looking for improvement in stopping power, then get some "better performance" pads. These CAN improve your braking performance.

[Whattydo]

Thanks for all of the replies especially ltz, I think saying that S/D rotors don't improve braking performance might be an arguable statement at best, but anyway it's a toss up between looks and performance, my brakes need to be replaced and I'll spring for the upgrade, just tryin to find anyone with experiance with Brembo and anyone knowing where to get a good deal on the rotors/pads
J-G
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What kind of drop do you have on your TB? Also i would loose those running boards and get some chrome side steps, or boards like mine :m2:
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[TB Lover]

Thanks for all of the replies especially ltz, I think saying that S/D rotors don't improve braking performance might be an arguable statement at best, but anyway it's a toss up between looks and performance, my brakes need to be replaced and I'll spring for the upgrade, just tryin to find anyone with experiance with Brembo and anyone knowing where to get a good deal on the rotors/pads
J-G
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Yeah, I didn't actually say much other "it won't help performance" so here we go:

The cross drilling and slotting not only increases the risk of stress risers, but also significantly decrease pad thickness through much of the shaving. There is NO performance gain, and I and other AX and RRer's know, especially since our sports tend to use brakes a lot. If you like the looks, okay, but there is no significant performance gain from the rotor face patterns, no matter what any user testimony may want to say.

The Zinc coating on the friction face will eventually buff off, however if there was any rust on the rotor face, it would be eventually be buffed off as well. Therefore the Zinc coating helps much more with the surfaces that don't involve the friction of braking by yielding less corrosion, however the corrosion on the inside of the internal ventilation hasn't hindered the cooling properties of the rotor by much.

In short, if you want looks and don't mind risking a sacrifice in performance and/or reliability, get rotors with those fancy features. If you are concerned with improving braking performance by cost effective brake modification alone, then be concerned with rotor swept area and brake pad compound. If you want those rotors buy them for looks, not for performance increase. Any possible results any will claim with the rotors themselves will be mostly placebo effects.

Also, the main argument against getting them for the looks is an increase in brake dust due to the shaving of the brake pads (increased wear, you'll go through pads more frequently). Of course, if you don't mind cleaning your wheels after everytime you go out, it shouldn't be an issue either.

As far as Brembo goes, they are a very respected brake company offering high end and dollar brakes on many of the best sports cars and in racing. I imagine the company selling those rotors is taking a Brembo blank and machining all the little cracks and crevaces in the blank and reselling them. Many companies do this, not so many correctly.

Ask yourself, or better yet, ask the company selling these rotors what increase in stopping distances are expected and if they have a money back guarentee if you don't meet these distances.

I find it interesting the only response that indicates they did a swap to the drilled slotted rotors also changed pads to a more agressive pad. This is often the case and why people, other than placebo effect, notice a difference.

Anyway, not trying to talk you out of them, I just want you to know that a performance increase is not going to happen. You're better just getting blanks and more agressive pads. Unless you want the "look of a racer" (although racers don't use them) and can put up with the dust.

BTW- Nice looking TB!!!

[jomschwa]

Yeah, I didn't actually say much other "it won't help performance" so here we go:

Nice post man! Way to clear things up :)

[TB Lover]

Thanks. I just want people to know what to actually expect once they get past the hype about them...;)

[Whattydo]

Thanx for all of the info, and your time, what brand/model brakes do you suggest then for performance alone?<-non-condescending, reducing brake dust hasn't been a major concern and one of the reasons I bought light-weight powder coated rims, but assuming I wanted best stopping power coupled with lowest brake dust what would you use? Thanks for the compliment on the truck btw.
J-G

[TB Lover]

Well unless you're towing, tracking, or repeatedly braking from high speeds, you probably don't need larger rotors, so kits are probably not necessary. If you're just after more bite try some more agressive pads. Some of the more popular ones right now are EBC and Hawks. Another option that were popular, and relatively easy to find are Performance Frictions.

Each of these have different lines, so just ask the retailer which will be best for your application and they should be able to point you in the right direction. ;)

Oh, and BTW, if your wheel/tire assembly is lighter than the one you are replacing, you should notice a little quicker acceleration and a little better braking because of the less unsprung mass. If it's the same or relatively the same, no difference and if it's much heavier, better leave some distance until you get used to them...:eek:

I'm sorry if I sounded condensending, without judical use of smiley's my writting is fairly dry, I'm a technical kinda guy...:cry:

I'm actually surprised you got through it all...:eek: :rotfl:

I do love those wheels... that deep dish is fantastic!!!:thumbsup:

[NORCAL SS]

IM WORKING OUT a group buy for the ssbc brakes. Ill be posting up link soon.