Website for wheel spacers and accessories

[CGK9]

http://www.ezaccessory.com/Default.asp

[FattyTBEXT]

I'm pretty sure someone here (roadie maybe) got wheel spacers from there and had to have some modifications done to them to make them work. :undecided

[the roadie]

http://www.ezaccessory.com/Default.asp

ANYBODY BUT THAT GUY!!!

Abysmal delivery. Slow replies to email. Missing lug nuts when he finally shipped, ***AND*** they all had wrong size hub holes, not all the same error!!!!!!

One of the four spacers had a center hole of 2.65". Three of the four had 2.75". They should have been 3.08". I had to fix them all myself.

And the bum then stopped replying to my emailed demands for compensation to fix his machining error.

The spacers work fine, but the transaction was a true ordeal. I think he subcontracts out to some buddy of his offshore. Since most of his other products are for ricers, I have absolutely no use for EZ Accessory. If it was an EBay transaction the negative feedback would have scorched his butt from three counties away.

:hissy: :hissy: :hissy: :hissy: :hissy:

[CGK9]

My bad Rodie... I would certainly take your word for it..

v/r

[CGK9]

Rodie, Where is a good place to order wheel spacers for our TV's....What are your recommnedations as far as web based vendors???

v/r

[the roadie]

Rodie, Where is a good place to order wheel spacers for our TV's....What are your recommnedations as far as web based vendors???

My bad Rodie... I would certainly take your word for it..

Oh, my goodness, you're not at fault. I found the bad guy by way of a web search as well, and I wanted to save a few bucks. As long as I was getting 6061 aluminum, I had no idea a vendor could mess up so badly.

Since I reworked this set, I haven't done much looking elsewhere except that I did also talk to FRED GOESKE at wheeladapter.com, who machines them while you wait (if you go there) and is a real seasoned professional. Check his site. Not cheap, but I was trying to skimp on a place that I should not have been.

The search function for the forums has no hits when I looked just now for "ezaccessory", but my previous warnings did come up when I searched for "ezaccessory.com". I would consider this a bug. Tommy?

[FattyTBEXT]

Mine came from wheeladapter.com and even though I am the second owner of these spacers (the first owner had them a pretty short time), I can tell that they are top-notch. :m2:

[elratondc]

do you have pic of your spacers installed?

[the roadie]

do you have pic of your spacers installed?
They all look pretty much alike unless you get the hubcentric ones.
http://www.roadie.org/spacer.jpg

[jeepdad]

This is probably a really naive question ... but I'm a bit nervous about my wheel spacers. I could only get the lugs so tight on the front due to the rotation of the hub. How often should I check them? Anyone ever noticed loose nuts?

[the roadie]

This is probably a really naive question ... but I'm a bit nervous about my wheel spacers. I could only get the lugs so tight on the front due to the rotation of the hub. How often should I check them? Anyone ever noticed loose nuts?The only loose nuts I've heard of were on 1.25" spacers where the original studs touched the back of the wheel rim because the spacer didn't hide them totally. They had to be ground down slightly.

I put a block of 4X4 vertically under a wheel stud to the ground to prevent the front hub from spinning. This is critical to get full torque (100 ft/lbs) on the lug nut. You are using a torque wrench to tighten the lugs aren't you? I took my wheels off after 500 miles to check the spacer nuts, and they were fine. Now I just check them at the 5000 mile rotation time.

[95_ESi_Person]

I am yet another person who fell fault and ordered from ezaccessory.com...

Did you just bring them to a machine shop and have them bored out? Cost?

As for the torquing of them, IF these would have fit, I had the Trailblazer in 4LO to do it, but since they didn't fit, I wrote a nasty email instead of enjoying my new shiny stuff.

Today is not a good day for new stuff fitting right, my phenolic spacer for my Talon didn't even fit right, but that's ok, it gives me a chance to enlarge my intake runners for slightly better flow (gasket matching), since the spacer was the exact size of the gaskets! This means another 4 hours of my life gone for removing the lower half of that manifold... YEAH!!! 4 HOURS!

[the roadie]

I am yet another person who fell fault and ordered from ezaccessory.com...

Did you just bring them to a machine shop and have them bored out? Cost?
What a scumbag he is. Still can't make them fit, eh? He'll ignore your email now and demands for compensation. If he ever does write back, tell him I've cost him at least a dozen customers. Too bad you didn't get the word.

My boss and I remachined them at work. We have a lathe. Cost me a lunch - $25.

For the search engines to find:

EZACCESSORY - EZACCESSORY.COM is a DISHONEST and INCOMPETENT vendor for wheel spacers.

Also known as:

E Century, Inc.
4934 Walnut Grove Ave
Suite 108
San Gabriel, California 91776
626-593-6818

[Gearhead2012]

It looks like a good place to to get wheel spacers, based on price alone...but, after reading any...any of his reviews, he's just a crook. I hate that people don't stand behind what they sell. Oh well...I'll probably give Fred a call if need be in a few weeks. Thanks for the feedback on them.

[JamesDub]

SamsOffroad.com

http://www.samsoffroad.com/

Thats where I got mine from . Quick ship no problems at all with mine in 3 years . 1.5" spacers = $225.00 delivered .

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/JamesDub131/DSC00015.jpg


James

[95_ESi_Person]

So now what? I'm pissed.

Guess it's time to call around and find a machine shop that can fix this.

These things look like they were used beforhand because where the lug nuts mate (for the hub) it's all scratched up and gouged.

[LawBlazer]

How much do hubcentric wheel spacers from Fred run? I think I remember seeing $297 or so for lugcentric and his website lists hubcentric as being $20 more per adaptor. So is $380 correct?

How much more strength or durability, if any, do anodized aluminum spacers add over regular machined aluminum spacers? Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Anyways, I was going to put a set of 245/75/16 tires on my TB, but after seeing more pictures of TrailVoy's with 265's, I think I may step up a size. Might as well get it right the first time.

[the roadie]

So now what? I'm pissed.

Guess it's time to call around and find a machine shop that can fix this.

These things look like they were used beforhand because where the lug nuts mate (for the hub) it's all scratched up and gouged.Did you pay with a credit card? You have consumer rights. Take photos, demand a refund, send 'em back. Unless you really need discount spacers you have to fix yourself at your own expense. The guy will never learn if he never feels any pain. Sorry I wasn't able to deliver any to him.

[95_ESi_Person]

Did you pay with a credit card? You have consumer rights. Take photos, demand a refund, send 'em back. Unless you really need discount spacers you have to fix yourself at your own expense. The guy will never learn if he never feels any pain. Sorry I wasn't able to deliver any to him.

Debit card.

I'm not hard pressed for these right now, but it's the principal of it all. And this guy is just too chicken to answer an email, I wonder what he would do if somebody walked into this guys shop "these don't fit".

[95_ESi_Person]

It looks like a good place to to get wheel spacers, based on price alone...but, after reading any...any of his reviews, he's just a crook. I hate that people don't stand behind what they sell. Oh well...I'll probably give Fred a call if need be in a few weeks. Thanks for the feedback on them.

ezaccessory has a review now on yahooshopping.com.

It's bad, and I hope that Yahoo posts it up for everybody to see.

[95_ESi_Person]

So nice it is to work for a manufacturing company, granted we bottle water, but still, we need to make parts on the fly, design and give the designs to local companies. Luckily our maintenance manager knows of many local machine shops. I would have been able to do this in house, but we don't have a lathe yet, so he gave me a reference, and since I dropped his name, I got a discount.... $75, and I'll have them back early next week.

If they are not back next week, they may potentially have lost a big client. I love having a position of "power".

[95_ESi_Person]

They offered to pay for part of my machining cost, they are paying $40 of the cost of the machining. Should be all of it along with the cost of lugnuts.

[the roadie]

They offered to pay for part of my machining cost, they are paying $40 of the cost of the machining. Should be all of it along with the cost of lugnuts.After you get your $40, tell them they still owe me $25. And they continue to suck. Lying incompetent scumbags.

[95_ESi_Person]

After you get your $40, tell them they still owe me $25. And they continue to suck. Lying incompetent scumbags.

Truthfully, they owe me $75 for the machining and $60 for the lugnuts. But $40 is better than $0.

Email them about it, they may do something about it.

My first email was an angry one and got no response, but the 2nd one was letting them know about the incorrect center bore, that one got the response.

[bigbadbowtie088]

Roadie, I'm thinking about getting the wheel adapters from Fred. I wasn't sure what size I need to clear the ball joint with the bigger tires. Thanks for any enlightenment you can provide.

[AlekG]

They need to be at least 1.5 inches thick. This will guarantee the lug bolts do not stick out above the height of the spacer.

I don't think anyone has gotten thicker than 1.5 inches.

As for clearing the steering arm/ball joint, this should do it with stock wheels and bigger tires. But you still have to make sure by knowing your tire width and your wheel offset (or backspacing) if going with different wheels.

AG

[the roadie]

As Alek says, it's an equation with a lot of variables. At least the only reasonable thickness for spacers is 1.5" so that's one fixed value, even if it isn't the optimum one we'd pick if we could.

And just to reinforce it one more time: Whoever you buy your spacers from, make sure it's not the incompetent, lying, ripoff goofs at ezaccessory.com

[JamesDub]

Mine are from samsoffroad.com :thumbsup:

[bartonmd]

Your debit card is exactly like a credit card, as it is run by Visa or Mastercard, and only takes money out of your bank account instead of taking it out of a C/C account... IIRC, you can still do the same deal to get your money back as you can with a credit card.

Mike

[bigbadbowtie088]

As Alek says, it's an equation with a lot of variables. At least the only reasonable thickness for spacers is 1.5" so that's one fixed value, even if it isn't the optimum one we'd pick if we could.

And just to reinforce it one more time: Whoever you buy your spacers from, make sure it's not the incompetent, lying, ripoff goofs at ezaccessory.com

I'll be getting them from either Samsoffroad, or Fred. I hate it when people dont stand behind their work:bonk:

[tnynyn]

Im thinking of getting new tires/wheels soon since my current tires are getting pretty worn. How are the wheel adapters from Samsoffroad? is it the same quality as freds?

[the roadie]

Nobody here would have bought both SOR and Fred's to compare, so I think you're asking an impossible question. :undecided

[tnynyn]

Nobody here would have bought both SOR and Fred's to compare, so I think you're asking an impossible question. :undecided

Hmm didnt think of that. :duh:

Well I've seen many people use Fred's so I know thats pretty reliable. Is there any problems with SOR's? Theres only a couple people that used SOR so I hope they chime in on its quality. Also, I'm not sure what wheels to get yet, but should would getting hub centric adapters not be compatible with some wheels? or is it compatible with all wheels?

[the roadie]

It's possible to buy wheels with a centerbore different than our standard. I bought mine first, THEN measured the centerbore, THEN had Fred make hubcentric spacers to match. It's the only way to be absolutely sure. Get a friend with digital calipers if you don't own a set. I also had him extend the centerbore lip more than his standard to make sure it would fit into the American Racing hole enough to grip PAST their chamfer.

Oh, and in case you haven't read it before - any time you add aftermarket spacers, take OFF the spring steel clips on your studs that retain the brake disk.

[tnynyn]

last question...

when buying wheels, should i look for a hub centric version? the ones im thinking about getting has a hub centric version and a regular version for the same price.

thinking about getting these:

http://www.4wheelonline.com/images/CategoryImages/PCW_8069series.jpg

[the roadie]

Hubcentric for WHEELS is critical. The centerbore should take the stress of the assembly. Wheel studs are designed to be stressed in tension only, not shear.

Our hubs are 78.3mm diameter, and all wheels for us should be drilled to fit.

[JamesDowning]

Without hubcentric locators there is the possibility of putting the wheel on slightly lower than center. This means your rotation axis and wheel axis would be offset and not coincident. You would thus feel vibration when traveling at speed.

It would be worth spending extra money for hubcentric wheels and spacers. It just makes sense.

[JamesDowning]

Just an update on exact price for anyone interested.

Four 1.5" Hubcentric and Wheelcentric 6x5 -> 6x5

$365 shipped from Wheeladapter.com

I know I was looking for this number when I was hunting around, so I figured I would post it up for future reference.

[tnynyn]

Heres a quote I got from Sams offroading: 260$ shipped NON HUBCENTRIC

[05TBFan]

Just an update on exact price for anyone interested.

Four 1.5" Hubcentric and Wheelcentric 6x5 -> 6x5

$365 shipped from Wheeladapter.com

I know I was looking for this number when I was hunting around, so I figured I would post it up for future reference.

Got the same price of $365.00 hubcentric / wheel centric 1.5" 6X5 spacer / adapters from Fred on Saturday - 13 Sep, 2008 - will ship in a day or do.

Only question that remains - are the better than the Motor Sport which sell for $40.00 less.

The $40.00 doesn't mean much but it would be nice to have a side by side comparison of the two different units.

Here I go OCDing again.

Bill

Bill

[rsmm0224]

JD, thanks for the thread link...

Now, what is hubcentric and why is it better? I saw JD's post about eliminating vibration. How does it do it?

[rsmm0224]

Nevermind, I saw JD's thread about the lift with the wheel spacer pics and I think I know what hubcentric means now and why its better. Correct me if I'm wrong but it appears to give a lip for the wheel to fit on to eliminating any possibility for variance with lugs alone.

Thanks

[the roadie]

... a side by side comparison of the two different units....As before, I can't see any reason a person would own two sets. My first set was wheelcentric, and as an early adopter, I found out somehting very useful to everybody. Cheap usually comes with a hidden price, and my warning was to NEVER BUY FROM ezaccessory.com. After re-machining them, I ran happily for years and with no breakage and sold them to another member when I upgraded. Now I have hubcentric spacer/adapters to go to 6X5.5" bolt pattern, from Fred Goeske, and I'm happy with those, even if I had to do a tiny bit of machining on the lip to fit my AR Mojave teflon wheels. By now I think he has the centerbore dimensioning dialed in just right....it appears to give a lip for the wheel to fit on to eliminating any possibility for variance with lugs alone.Yes. The lip has to be machined perfectly to fit in your wheels, but the lip serves to center the wheel and take the weight of it when it's first put on the hub. Then the studs aren't taking the weight of the tire assembly and slightly deflecting downwards as you tighten the lug nuts. It may only deflect a thousandth or two, but this can cause vibration and imbalance even on a perfectly balanced tire.

[05TBFan]

Got the same price of $365.00 hubcentric / wheel centric 1.5" 6X5 spacer / adapters from Fred on Saturday - 13 Sep, 2008 - will ship in a day or do.

Only question that remains - are the better than the Motor Sport which sell for $40.00 less.

The $40.00 doesn't mean much but it would be nice to have a side by side comparison of the two different units.

Here I go OCDing again.

Bill

Hi, Guys,

Ordered a set of wheel adaptor / spacers from www.motorsport-tech.com hub-centric wheel-centric including all the hardware and made from 6061-T6 aluminum for $280.00 delivered to NY state.

They asked all the right questions, took their time to make sure everything is as should be and hopefully in a week or so I'll find out.

Why MotorSport-Tech - $85.00 less than wheeladaptor.com and supposedly as good as anything out there.

Will let you know.

Then later last evening I received an email from Sam's Off Road - $279.95 for the same - can't remember if that included delivery.

Ahhhh the joys of buying toys - wife's away this week and just look at the beautiful coming home present she's getting.

She'll really be excited when she gets her Christmas present - new tires

Bill

[the roadie]

What did you tell them the centerbore should be? With my American Racing Mojave wheels I had to tell Fred (actually his daughter, who was taking the order) to make the protruding lip 1/4" longer than standard because the AR wheels had a large chamfered edge on their centerbore.

And a small reminder might be timely here for anybody putting on spacers for the first time - get rid of the spring clip that holds the rotor to one of the lugs. It will prevent your spacer from sitting down flat on the rotor surface. The OEM wheel has a recess cast into it for this purpose but spacers don't. If you leave in the spring clip your spacer won't generate the friction needed to resist rotation, and studs could fail. And the wheel will wobble a tiny bit and vibrate.

[05TBFan]

What did you tell them the centerbore should be? With my American Racing Mojave wheels I had to tell Fred (actually his daughter, who was taking the order) to make the protruding lip 1/4" longer than standard because the AR wheels had a large chamfered edge on their centerbore.

And a small reminder might be timely here for anybody putting on spacers for the first time - get rid of the spring clip that holds the rotor to one of the lugs. It will prevent your spacer from sitting down flat on the rotor surface. The OEM wheel has a recess cast into it for this purpose but spacers don't. If you leave in the spring clip your spacer won't generate the friction needed to resist rotation, and studs could fail. And the wheel will wobble a tiny bit and vibrate.

Hi, Roadie,

Forgot about the centerbore - 78.3mm??? Just askrd to fit the TrailBlazer - I'll send an email making sure this is correct.

Hopefully I won't need that with the oem wheels - thoughts???? I can still change the order before Monday.

Thanks for the heads up again about the clips - hopefully that one is ingrained in my quickly disappearing brain cells.

Another question comes to mind - what grade bolts are our oem studs - if I've gotten it right they're a 12mm x 1.5 cm.

Here's an image - hopefully the length of the lip will be long enough.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/wrfrench/TrailBlazer/MotorSportTechWheelAdaptor.jpg

[the roadie]

I've never seen a strength grade for wheel studs. They're just "studs". 78.3mm is the right centerbore for the spacers to go over the hub. The lip may need to be a shade smaller to go inside the wheel's hole. 0.2-0.3mm maybe? They should have the experience to do it right to the wheel doesn't jam onto the spacer lip like mine are very tight.

[1builder]

i know we have switched gears but it makes me shiver when people use board and levers to keep there wheel from spinning when torquing. please so i can sleep better at night take the time and pay the neighborhood kid a cookie to sit in the drivers seat and hit the brakes. i dont care how small he is the wheel spacer wont spin and youll get a good torque. (coming from a man who has lost many a tire) torque is not a option.

[xhondastyle07x]

SamsOffroad.com

http://www.samsoffroad.com/

Thats where I got mine from . Quick ship no problems at all with mine in 3 years . 1.5" spacers = $225.00 delivered .

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/JamesDub131/DSC00015.jpg


James

Got mine from samsoffroad. 225 is lug nut centric. I paid 25 extra for hubcentric and another 25 for wheelcentric. Production looks great, checked with micrometer. Does not come with lugnuts.