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...the other one's who rather criticize and put people down...
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If you misinterpreted my response as a put-down, you're mistaken. I'm trying to put it in perspective for you - that you could be wasting money when you jump to conclusions instead of truly wanting to learn enough to be a competent maintenance tech. If my advice to buy a manual or take a class is a put-down, I'll have to live with that shame.
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rather than just giving a quick simple answer that is readily available.
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Um, no. There IS no quick simple answer for a P0410 problem. You have to troubleshoot it to find the broken part, or else you're going to be shotgunning it - throwing excessive numbers of parts at the problem, wasting money and time. I'm not WITHHOLDING the answer from you, but I've seen far too many new members come here and think that an Internet forum can be a substitute for being a competent mechanic with no training. Chances of success are not good. I can't tell you how many times I've seen questions about "how can I fix this electrical problem", and I post the schematic and all sorts of advice how the system works, only to be told that the original poster doesn't even own a $5 voltmeter and can't follow the instructions ANYBODY would give them. Then I have the unenviable duty to advise them they aren't up to minimum fish & game standards to be working on an electrical problem. Not owning and knowing how to use a meter is a CRITICAL impediment when working on an electrical issue. And blaming the messenger when told that is counterproductive. Going to a library and GETTING the training is the proper response.
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Just a reminder that not everyone in this forum has the time to search through numerous posts and have the time to know everything there is to know about their trucks.
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No time to search, no time to read up on how to fix the vehicle, just looking for an instant fix that we secret masters of trailvoy are hiding from you? Sometimes, there are no instant fixes.
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In these hard economic times not everyone has a job or the cash to just bring their cars to a mechanics shop and pay out hundreds of dollars.
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OK. Personally I LOVE to help folks avoid paying ripoff dealership rates, or get victimized by incompetent independent mechanics who change the wrong part or perform the wrong repair because they don't know the vehicles as well as we do. I bet I've saved members here over $100K over four years of being a volunteer answering questions. But I think I can speak for every volunteer here when I say we most enjoy helping people who share our enthusiasm to LEARN and to be a better self-mechanic. Not the ones who come in and think that it's easy, and that troubleshooting is a secret art with a magic answer book. It's a process.
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A big reason people come to this forum is to do just that, to get reliable answers from people who care and are willing to take the time out to help fellow Envoy/ Trailblazer owners, not to be criticized and talked down to because they don't have the time to read through posts or don't know where certain components are located.
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If you choose to not pay a mechanic, you MUST be willing to invest some of your time in a search process. You specifically jumped to a conclusion that your SAIS relay was bad, and PM'ed me to find out its location. I wouldn't just give you that answer, because my judgment was that you would be wasting your money and I wanted you to troubleshoot the system and find out which part was really at fault. And in the process you'd learn more about the vehicle.
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So again, thank you for all your help, and no thank you for your criticism.
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Someday, you'll understand the parable of "Give a man a fish and he's fed for a day...TEACH him how to fish and he's fed for a lifetime."
Lots of postings!!
And he's only 18!
