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Old 11-20-2010, 04:31 PM
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Oil Consumption

Where is it going? no leaks and its more than the 1 qt for every 2k.I am looking for an oil cooler and yes its the 5.3 can anyone offer help.
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Old 11-20-2010, 06:59 PM
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I moved this thread to the 5.3L section (you put it in the 4.2) and deleted your other thread in the Chat lounge because one thread per issue is our tradition. Sorry I don't have much to offer except have you done a hydrocarbon analysis on your coolant?
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Old 11-20-2010, 11:29 PM
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Hope this helps

We have ran into a couple of engines that had valve stem seals failures, and if the valve stem seals is not the problem, we do this

Hope this helps.
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#PIP4492S: Oil Consumption And/Or Exhaust Smoke - Possible PCV Baffle Or Lifter Concern - (Nov 11, 2010)

Subject: Oil Consumption and/or Exhaust Smoke - Possible PCV Baffle or Lifter Concern

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With any of the following V8 Engine RPO Codes:

4.8L - L20, LR4, LY2

5.3L - L33, L59, LC9*, LH6*, LH8, LH9, LM7, LMF, LMG, LS4**, LY5

6.0L - L76*, L77, L96, LFA*, LQ4, LQ9, LS2, LY6, LZ1

6.2L - L92*, L94, L9H

*For 2007-2008 Full Size Trucks or 2008 Pontiac G8 with Engine RPO Code LC9, LH6, L76, L92, or LFA: If there is no sign of excessive oil in the intake manifold as described below, follow the latest version of 10-06-01-008 about sticking oil control rings and re-evaluate the oil consumption. Bulletin 10-06-01-008 does not apply to the Envoy, Rainier, Saab 97x, or Trail Blazer Models with Engine RPO Code LH6 because they have a different design oil pan and AFM pressure relief system.

**For Passenger Cars with Engine RPO LS4: Perform the PCV system inspection outlined below and refer to the latest version of PIP4814.

Notice: Passenger Cars with Engine RPOs LS3, LS7, LS9, and LSA are excluded from this PI because they have the PCV baffle built into the intake valley cover, rather than the valve cover so excessive lifter flow does not affect them in the same manner.

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The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.

Condition/Concern:
On rare occasions, some customers may complain of excessive oil consumption and/or blue exhaust smoke. Upon inspection, obvious oil will be found in the intake manifold and/or PCV vacuum tube if this PI applies.

This may be the result of:

• A PCV fresh air hose that is pinched or restricted by plastic casting flash (this would normally be a concern since new, or shortly after engine repairs).

• Plugged PCV baffle drain holes in the valve cover that has the PCV vacuum pipe attached to it (this would normally be a concern at high mileage).

• An improperly sealed PCV valve cover baffle (this would normally be a concern since new, or shortly after valve cover replacement).

• Over-aggressive valve lifters (generally occurs at low mileage - less than 10,000 miles or so).

Recommendation/Instructions:
If bulletin 01-06-01-011 identifies excessive oil consumption but SI diagnosis does not isolate the cause of it, inspect the PCV vacuum pipe to see if obvious oil drips out of it and look through the throttle body opening to see if there is obvious standing oil in the bottom of the intake manifold (normally a 1/4 quart or more if this PI applies). If there is obvious oil in the PCV vacuum pipe or in the bottom of the intake, perform the steps below and re-evaluate the oil consumption concern:

Inspect the fresh air hose/pipe and all related connections to make sure that no restrictions exist (plastic casting flash, pinched hose, etc.), which may cause excessive crankcase vacuum. Repair the restriction as necessary. Generally, the oil consumption would have been a concern since new, or shortly after engine repairs, if this is the root cause.
Inspect the PCV baffle drain holes shown below to see if they are plugged with hardened oil deposits. These are located in the valve cover that has the PCV vacuum pipe attached to it. If they are plugged, replace the valve cover; ensure that the customer is changing their oil according to the maintenance schedule in their owner’s manual, and re-evaluate the concern. Generally, the oil consumption would not have appeared until several thousand miles accumulated if this is the root cause.
Important: If this step leads to valve cover replacement, perform step 3 on the replacement valve cover before installing it.

Inspect the PCV baffle to ensure that it is properly sealed to the valve cover by flipping it over and adding a little oil to the baffle to valve cover joint as shown below. The oil should stay in place as shown on the 2 outer valve covers below. If the oil drains into the PCV baffle as pointed out on the middle valve cover below, replace the valve cover. Generally, the oil consumption would have been present early in the life of the vehicle or shortly after valve cover replacement if this is the root cause.
Important: If this step leads to valve cover replacement, perform this step on the replacement valve cover before installing it.

If there is no problem found above but there is obvious oil in the PCV vacuum pipe or bottom of the intake manifold, this may be the result of the PCV system ingesting excessive oil due to an overaggressive lifter. Sometimes this may occur intermittently so inspecting the lifter flow may not always isolate the suspect lifter. If steps 1-3 above do not isolate the cause of excessive oil in the intake, replace all 8 lifters that are on the side of the engine that has the PCV vacuum pipe attached to the valve cover. It is not necessary to replace the 8 lifters on the other side of the engine.
Important: Drain/clean the oil out of the intake manifold and install the intake with new intake gaskets before releasing the vehicle to the customer. If this is not performed, the customer may return with an exhaust smoke complaint even though their oil consumption complaint may be repaired.

Important: Make sure that the replacement lifters do not have any sign of debris in the plunger area as shown in the bottom-center lifter below. If there is debris present, remove it with some light shop air. Do not stick anything in the plunger area to remove it such as a screwdriver.

Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.

GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.

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